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     This is Mr. Peabody and Sherman....



    I have no idea what this is....



     I've not seen it, have no plans to see it, I consider it an insult to a great, funny, witty piece of tv animation, and I don't really care what their target audience is supposed to be, this is crap!

Not much of what you said there that I actually disagree with (except I don't think you understand Republicans as well as you think you do! )

Anyway, rants done, back to Trevor's immigration status?

     I'd have to agree....I saw DIARY OF A MAD BLACK WOMAN, and all I saw was this buffoon-in-a-dress tummling soul-food style, and I was embarrassed by the viewing. I feel the same way about THE BROWNS, and TYLER PERRY'S HOUSE OF PAYNE, although my wife loves them.

     This is just silly, and silly is NOT funny.

The Getaway (1972)-One of Hill's very first screenplay credits and its directed by none other than the legendary Sam Peckinpah. According to his biography this was one of the few scripts that Peckinpah would not extensively rewrite. His addiction worsening he would direct this picture with a constantly refilling drink from morning till night. Considering this backdrop you might think this film would be a mess but instead its about as masterfully crafted an action picture as your going to find in the 1970's.

The basic plot is that Steve Mqueen gets out of prison with the help of his wife (Ali Mcgraw) and a crooked sheriff. But as soon as he gets out the sheriff expects him to rob a bank inevitably leading to more trouble. This is one of those older films where you can really tell filmmakers have been greatly influenced by. The bank robbery itself covered from all the participants is incredible and you can tell Michael Mann (Heat robbery sequences) and Christopher Nolan (opening of Dark Knight) have seen and studied this sequence. Later on when this film becomes more of a chase film it seems that the Coen's owe more than a bit to Peckinpah for their excellent "No Country for Old Men".

The Driver(1979) Walter Hill directed and scripted this film taking the liberty to even reuse a sequence or two from his earlier script on "The Getaway". Ryan O Neil plays the driver whose exceptional abilities makes him of a target of a crooked cop played by Bruce Dern.

Anyone whose seen Drive will find the blueprint that made that later film possible here. The opening sequence is nearly exactly the same and the films also share Ryan's who don't say or express much on their faces. A low point here is when Hill recycles the train sequence from the Getaway, he is unable to orchestrate suspense to the same level as Peckinpah did with the same set piece and would have been better to leave it out. But anyway this more is called the Driver and not The Train Guy so what about the chases. Well their pure concentrated awesome.

Junior Bonner-(1972)Continuing my foray into the filmography I decided to check out one of his lesser known works Junior Bonner. Steve Mqueen is Junior a down on his luck rodeo competitor who returns home after a long absence to find that times are changing and their changing fast. His brother is selling off the family property moving them from their lifelong homes into trailer parks and making a killing doing it. If the Wild Bunch showed a way of life beginning to die off this film shows us it's last breaths.

Peckinpah is know most known for his action sequences, and rightfully so they are incredible. But here there's not a shot fired and what comes to the forefront is a sweetness that you wouldn't necessarily expect from the man. At its core its about a family coming together, putting aside their differences and embracing each other either if only for one brief moment. Like much of Peckinpah's movies there's a fantastic commentary track with 3 authors of Peckinpah biographies (including the one I'm reading now If They Move Kill Em!). Its infectious hearing these men love of Peckinpah's work and their combined research makes for some of the finest commentary tracks you can ask for.

And I am PROUD to work with them-and it seems like white America is getting jealous because this country is shifting from white America -its not your white bread 1950's no more-thats gone-Republicans are scared of change-they want it to be Ronald Reagan white bread homey stuff--not gonna happen-enter the real world.
They try to employ Jim Crow laws on gays-you cant serve fags at your store?
Sounds like-"We dont serve n****rs" from the old south.
f**k THAT.

OK-Im done venting too-sorry if I rant-but Im very passionate about this country and what it stands for.
And thats FREEDOM!  

And I know this because Ive worked at Honee Bear Canning Co. for 28 years-80 percent of the employees started out as illegal Mexicans-many of the foreman are now Mexican. And not because they didnt work for it. They are hard working people. They EARNED and WORKED.
Aint that America?

#30 made me lol...some of these are "wins" btw.

Ronnie - it was intended as a joke, and I'm sorry if it came across wrong.
But, like all jokes, there is a core of truth in it.

My sister is an RN in the Houston area who works in the Ob/Gyn ward.
Every year hundreds of illegals come through there, having their babies, and the taxpayer foots the bill for every dime.
Her son and his wife just had their second child.  Each baby cost them about $5000 out of pocket, WITH insurance.
There is something fundamentally broken about a system that punishes its citizens for reproducing while paying for those
who are here in violation of our law to do so.
Not saying folks don't have a right to come here and have kids . . . . but something about that scenario just isn't right!

Anyway, sorry to hijack Trevor's thread.  He's welcome in Texas AND Michigan!

Indy-I understand what your saying-but it didnt sound like a joke to me.Its a complex problem-I know-I also know that lotsa Michiganders lose ther jobs because migrant mexicans will work under the table for less money-but thats not there fault-thats the fault of the rich basterds who hire them BECAUSE they know that they will work for dirt! If you dont want illegals here-dont exploit them! There is a reason they come here,ya know-it aint for the dam scenery-its cuz rich white folk hire them to do s**t jobs.

Wolverine, seems to work for me too.

Rc - it's from "Born in East LA" by Cheech Marin