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Poll
Question: Which film of Steven Seagal's ever growing filmography would you consider to be his best?
Option 1: Above the Law  (1988)
Option 2: Hard to Kill   (1990)
Option 3: Marked for Death   (1990)
Option 4: Out for Justice    (1991)
Option 5: Under Siege   (1992)
Option 6: On Deadly Ground   (1994)
Option 7: Under Siege 2: Dark Territory   (1995)
Option 8: The Glimmer Man   (1996)
Option 9: Fire Down Below   (1997)
Option 10: Exit Wounds   (2001)
Option 11: Half Past Dead   (2002)
Option 12: Belly of the Beast  
Option 13: Into the Sun
Option 14: Executive Decision  
Option 15: (other)  please specify title.
Title: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Torgo on January 04, 2007, 04:04:54 PM
Vote and discuss!!     :drink:
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: clockworkcanary on January 04, 2007, 04:17:13 PM
I can't remember exactly which movie it was, but it's the one he's not in very long where he croaks.  I'm wanting to say Broken Arrow but I don't think that's it.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Menard on January 04, 2007, 04:23:39 PM
Quote from: Torgo on January 04, 2007, 04:04:54 PM
Vote and discuss!!     :drink:

And did you have anything else to share? :tongueout:


I voted 'other', and what a great movie title it was.

Even though I like Seagal movies, well basically the way he beats up on bad guys, the downside is that they seem to run together (now was this scene in this movie or that movie).

Being that Belly of the Beast was the best of the recent crop of Seagal films (and you did not list them) which compares well with his earlier films, I would vote for it. It is one of the few Seagal films where he does not cake walk through it and has to face off against dangerous opponents; not to mention that it is wall-to-wall action.

Glimmer Man is one I like a lot as it has an undercurrent of humor not in some of his other films; and, for me, it is more memorable and has less duplication.

Just my opinions.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Menard on January 04, 2007, 04:25:11 PM
Quote from: clockworkcanary on January 04, 2007, 04:17:13 PM
I can't remember exactly which movie it was, but it's the one he's not in very long where he croaks.  I'm wanting to say Broken Arrow but I don't think that's it.

Executive Decision (1996)
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Ash on January 04, 2007, 04:33:27 PM
I voted for the first "Under Siege".
I've always liked that movie.

One other thing, in case any of you have never noticed...
Put the words, "Steven Seagal is..." in front of most of his early film titles.

Steven Seagal is...Under Siege
Steven Seagal is...Marked For Death
Steven Seagal is...Above the Law
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Torgo on January 04, 2007, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: Menard on January 04, 2007, 04:23:39 PM
Quote from: Torgo on January 04, 2007, 04:04:54 PM
Vote and discuss!!     :drink:

And did you have anything else to share? :tongueout:


I voted 'other', and what a great movie title it was.

Even though I like Seagal movies, well basically the way he beats up on bad guys, the downside is that they seem to run together (now was this scene in this movie or that movie).

Being that Belly of the Beast was the best of the recent crop of Seagal films (and you did not list them) which compares well with his earlier films, I would vote for it. It is one of the few Seagal films where he does not cake walk through it and has to face off against dangerous opponents; not to mention that it is wall-to-wall action.

Glimmer Man is one I like a lot as it has an undercurrent of humor not in some of his other films; and, for me, it is more memorable and has less duplication.

Just my opinions.

Sorry, but I didn't think that my opinions were that important in things like this.   :twirl:

Anyway, I would have to agree with you that Belly of the Beast was actually pretty decent.  Disregarding that he's still getting a stunt double half his current girth to do a lot of the more intense fight moves, I thought it was entertaining.    

I'll edit the poll to include that.

Plus, Into the Sun wasn't that bad.  Certainly is way better than stuff like The Foreigner and The Patriot.

But my favorite of his will always be Marked for Death.  Hard to Kill would be a close second.

I realize that he's going to be turning 57 this year, but that's just no excuse for him to let himself go in terms of all the weight he's had on himself for the last decade.

Look at some of the other action starts of his era and they're for the most part in really good shape.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Torgo on January 04, 2007, 04:42:18 PM
I updated the poll to include Executive Decision, Belly of the Beast and Into the Sun.

Let me know if there's any others that should be on there.

I try to keep the polls limited more to the expected titles to a certain degree.  Don't want them being too large.  If I listed all of Steven's movies to date, man talk about a poll.   :hot: 
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: akiratubo on January 04, 2007, 06:12:30 PM
Marked for Death is the only Segal movie I think is any good.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Shadow on January 04, 2007, 06:19:10 PM
Man, it's been so long since I've seen any of them, that I don't even remember what they were about! I suppose I'll just go with Above the Law. I can remember seeing that in the theater as one half of a double feature. The other half was that horror movie Prison.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Doc Daneeka on January 04, 2007, 06:41:51 PM
These Seagull films have the corniest titles! :teddyr:
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: BeyondTheGrave on January 05, 2007, 12:20:15 AM
Never been a big fan of Seagal. None of his movies really caught me attention. So I go Executive Decision Supsrised and happy he croaks.  :tongueout:
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Dennis on January 05, 2007, 01:13:41 AM
I voted for Out for Justice because of all the Steven Seagal movies I've seen, which would be most but not all, I liked it the most, I would like his movies more if he just beat up on the bad guys and didn't try to actually act or talk.  :bouncegiggle:
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Scottie on January 05, 2007, 01:23:25 AM
What's the one where he fights arctic animals, such as referenced in a Family Guy? A friend of mine, no joke, watched it in her philosophy class. I took that class, but we didn't watch that. Too bad too...
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: rebel_1812 on January 05, 2007, 01:59:45 AM
Quote from: clockworkcanary on January 04, 2007, 04:17:13 PM
I can't remember exactly which movie it was, but it's the one he's not in very long where he croaks.  I'm wanting to say Broken Arrow but I don't think that's it.

"Executive Decisioin" with Kurt Russell
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: rebel_1812 on January 05, 2007, 02:02:15 AM
None of his movies were any good; makes you wonder how he gets work.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: RCMerchant on January 05, 2007, 03:17:34 AM
I like the one where he's fighting the insane coke head...but only because the drugged out gangster is a wild charecter.I have trouble rembering the titles as well...
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: ulthar on January 05, 2007, 10:15:45 AM
Quote from: rebel_1812 on January 05, 2007, 02:02:15 AM
None of his movies were any good; makes you wonder how he gets work.

Where "his" in this case could equally represent Ben Affleck, among others. (*)

* To qualify as "his movie," I think he has to be the headliner, not some bit part or supporting role.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Bill C. on January 05, 2007, 12:29:16 PM
While the easy answer is Under Siege, I think his most impressive showing was actually his first: Above The Law.  This is where he was the new badass on the block, who almost literally just burst onto the scene and started beating down suckers without missing a beat...okay, the breaking of limbs still bugs me (but gunshots and bullet wounds usually don't--am I a wuss?), but he was just so damn good at it.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Torgo on January 05, 2007, 05:20:23 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on January 05, 2007, 03:17:34 AM
I like the one where he's fighting the insane coke head...but only because the drugged out gangster is a wild charecter.I have trouble rembering the titles as well...

I think you're thinking of Out for Justice in which William Forsythe played the strung out coke head.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Torgo on January 05, 2007, 05:21:20 PM
Quote from: rebel_1812 on January 05, 2007, 02:02:15 AM
None of his movies were any good; makes you wonder how he gets work.

He is usually listed as a producer on most of his flicks so that probably has something to do with it.   :tongueout:
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Scott on January 05, 2007, 05:21:44 PM
I went with ABOVE THE LAW as his best, but I must admit I kinda liked UNDER SIEGE also and some of his earlier 3 or 4 films.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: ulthar on January 05, 2007, 06:12:55 PM
BELLY OF THE BEAST arrived from Netflix today.   :wink:
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: RCMerchant on January 05, 2007, 06:23:38 PM
OUT for JUSTICE! Yeah,I always liked Wm. Forsythe in that role.He's really what makes the film.Segal is basically dull.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Torgo on January 05, 2007, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on January 05, 2007, 06:23:38 PM
OUT for JUSTICE! Yeah,I always liked Wm. Forsythe in that role.He's really what makes the film.Segal is basically dull.

Steven's movies are at their best when he's got a great supporting cast around him.

That's the reason why Under Siege worked so great was because of Gary Busey and Tommy Lee Jones chewing up the screen.  That, and Erika Eleniak getting naked didn't hurt either.   :teddyr:

In fact, the only time I've ever really seen Steven try to emote at all is during the scene in Hard to Kill when he screams after his wife is shot near the beginning.

But his limited acting style did suit his earlier movies like Above the Law as he was just such a bad@ss in that movie that he didn't really need to act all that much.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Jim H on January 05, 2007, 11:23:56 PM
QuoteSteven Seagal is...Above the Law

That actually doesn't make sense.  More accurate would be Steven Seagal isn't...Above the Law.  The whole point is that no one is above the law.

Under Siege is my favorite, but #2 is probably Exit Wounds.  Post-Exit Wounds, Belly of the Beast is pretty good - not surprising considering awesome Chinese director Ching Siu-Tung helmed and choreographed it.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Torgo on January 05, 2007, 11:27:31 PM
The great thing about the majority of Steven Seagal's movie titles is that whenver I'm in a DVD store and see a new flick of his on the shelf (which seems to be about every week  :buggedout: ) I always have to blurt out   "Steven Seagal  IS  ...(insert name of movie here)."   

Never fails to crack me up.
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: sideorderofninjas on January 06, 2007, 12:05:15 AM
Quote from: Scottie on January 05, 2007, 01:23:25 AM
What's the one where he fights arctic animals, such as referenced in a Family Guy? A friend of mine, no joke, watched it in her philosophy class. I took that class, but we didn't watch that. Too bad too...

On Deadly Ground had the visions of him with polar bears and him realizing that Mother Nature wanted him to kill polluters, etc...

I only got to watch Johnny Mnemonic in a philosophy class. 
Title: Re: Best Steven Seagal film.
Post by: Neville on January 06, 2007, 09:52:33 AM
Quote from: Ashthecat on January 04, 2007, 04:33:27 PM
One other thing, in case any of you have never noticed...
Put the words, "Steven Seagal is..." in front of most of his early film titles.

Steven Seagal is...Under Siege
Steven Seagal is...Marked For Death
Steven Seagal is...Above the Law

Steven Seagal is... Half Past Dead

Yeah, makes sense  :teddyr:

I think I am outnumbered here, as I prefer Seagal when you don't have to take him seriously. I think his first movie I enjoyed was Under Siege 2 (and on the big screen, imagine). It's just so fast moving and funny, with that chessy villain. Couldn't help but liking it.

I also enjoyed Glimmer Man, Half past Dead, Out for a kill and Belly of the beast, which was sort of Ok for a late Seagall flick. I can't stand his latest direct-to-DVD output, though, it's just too boring and impersonal you can't even laugh at it.