I have psycho, and i am just confused. 99% good, the 1% is the last explanation on Norman :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Do you mean you don't understand the last shot or do you mean you just don't like the "punch line"?
the explaination on how norman was himself and his mum :teddyr:
Are we talking the original or the "everyone involved should be shot" remake?
That final shot of Norman, with the often unnoticed subliminal overlay of Mother's face, is sublimely creepy.
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The original still freaks me out a bit. I love that movie.
I love the original. It was one of the creepiest films I remember seeing. It took me seeing it a few times to accept the fact that you never actually see the stabbing in the shower scene. I was convinced it was in the film dispite the fact it's clearly not.
The remake blows chunks, however.
I recall (only because I hate spelling 'remember' cuz I always spell it wrong) reading about PSYCHO in Castle of Frankenstein magazine in the early seventies. It was NEVER shown on TV. I bought a book by Richard Anobile-a frame by frame blow up of the entire film. Anobile had done this with a number of films (this was before VHS tapes) and I had a Marx Bros one,the March Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde,Frankenstein,and Psycho. Beautiful books. But it missed Benard Hermanns screeching score. His score puncuated the horror. Devetating.I finally seen the film in 1983 on Fox 17 , When Fox'es top shows were Tracy Ullman and 21 Jump Street. When they went off the air,channel 17 would play old films. Like HITLER-DEAD OR ALIVE,BRIDE OF THE MONSTER,NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD, and (with a warning before it aired!!!) PSYCHO. One of the best horror films ever made,IMHO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoQ6Jc9PyCI
Up until Janet Leigh gets killed, it's very good. After that, Psycho seems, to me, like it gradually runs out of steam, as if Hitchcock shot his wad too early and didn't quite know how to finish the movie.
The movie should have ended shortly after Norman came out in his mother's clothes trying to kill Janet Leigh's sister. We didn't need the miscalculated (and kind of annoying) scene where the guy explains Norman to us. We could have figured him out quite well from context clues, thank you.
I think it deserves its place in pop culture history but it's definitely not "the best horror movie ever made" or anything. I wouldn't even say it's the best slasher movie ever made, but that's just iconoclastic old me. :wink:
Quote from: akiratubo on June 26, 2009, 09:06:37 PM
Up until Janet Leigh gets killed, it's very good. After that, Psycho seems, to me, like it gradually runs out of steam, as if Hitchcock shot his wad too early and didn't quite know how to finish the movie.
The movie should have ended shortly after Norman came out in his mother's clothes trying to kill Janet Leigh's sister. We didn't need the miscalculated (and kind of annoying) scene where the guy explains Norman to us. We could have figured him out quite well from context clues, thank you.
I think it deserves its place in pop culture history but it's definitely not "the best horror movie ever made" or anything. I wouldn't even say it's the best slasher movie ever made, but that's just iconoclastic old me. :wink:
Someone is fussy today. :twirl: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:
Quote from: akiratubo on June 26, 2009, 09:06:37 PM
Up until Janet Leigh gets killed, it's very good. After that, Psycho seems, to me, like it gradually runs out of steam, as if Hitchcock shot his wad too early and didn't quite know how to finish the movie.
The movie should have ended shortly after Norman came out in his mother's clothes trying to kill Janet Leigh's sister. We didn't need the miscalculated (and kind of annoying) scene where the guy explains Norman to us. We could have figured him out quite well from context clues, thank you.
I think it deserves its place in pop culture history but it's definitely not "the best horror movie ever made" or anything. I wouldn't even say it's the best slasher movie ever made, but that's just iconoclastic old me. :wink:
I wouldn't say it's the best anything either, but I would say it's a very, very good horror film. I do agree the suspense sort of peters after the shower scene, but not as badly as you mention, you still wonder whether or not the guy and/or the girl will be the next victims as they wander curiously to the hotel on Marion's trail...
I definitely disagree about ending the film right after the climactic attack, that to me would make it little more than a cheap "boo" at the end. It would end up looking more... pretentious (For lack of a more accurate word) if the twist was just left to speak for itself, sort of like "bang, this is the most shocking thing you'll see/what you all watched the movie for"... The deadpan sort of explanation scene serves to buffer two very effective scenes of madness, not only preventing it from becoming unsatisfying or monotonous, but also integrating the plot twist as a part of a greater movie rather than making it seem like "the very best part".
I quite like Psycho. Don't know if it warranted four sequels, but, for it's time, I suppose, it was very well done.
PSYCHO is great for any time. The sequels are irrelevant. Definitely one of the greatest Horror films.
Quote from: Allhallowsday on June 30, 2009, 02:50:52 PM
PSYCHO is great for any time. The sequels are irrelevant. Definitely one of the greatest Horror films.
They may be irrelevant if you wish, but Psycho II is just as good. :tongueout:
Quote from: Mr. Briggs Inc. on June 30, 2009, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on June 30, 2009, 02:50:52 PM
PSYCHO is great for any time. The sequels are irrelevant. Definitely one of the greatest Horror films.
They may be irrelevant if you wish, but Psycho II is just as good. :tongueout:
Let me clarify that they have nothing to do with the original film except being... "inspired" by it and
TONY PERKINS in however many he's in.
Quote from: Mr. Briggs Inc. on June 30, 2009, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on June 30, 2009, 02:50:52 PM
PSYCHO is great for any time. The sequels are irrelevant. Definitely one of the greatest Horror films.
They may be irrelevant if you wish, but Psycho II is just as good. :tongueout:
I can see liking PSYCHO 2, but "just as good" really surprises me... to each his own, I guess.
Quote from: Allhallowsday on June 30, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Briggs Inc. on June 30, 2009, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on June 30, 2009, 02:50:52 PM
PSYCHO is great for any time. The sequels are irrelevant. Definitely one of the greatest Horror films.
They may be irrelevant if you wish, but Psycho II is just as good. :tongueout:
Let me clarify that they have nothing to do with the original film except being... "inspired" by it and TONY PERKINS in however many he's in.
It is great for any time, yes, but I gotta say, I am the only one of my group of friends (we're young bucks), who actually admits to liking it. They all like the modern 'horror', with the blood and guts and not much suspense kind. I liked the sequels (all of which had Perkins, excluding the remake), but felt they could've just left it with having only one sequel.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on June 30, 2009, 08:10:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Briggs Inc. on June 30, 2009, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on June 30, 2009, 02:50:52 PM
PSYCHO is great for any time. The sequels are irrelevant. Definitely one of the greatest Horror films.
They may be irrelevant if you wish, but Psycho II is just as good. :tongueout:
I can see liking PSYCHO 2, but "just as good" really surprises me... to each his own, I guess.
I enjoy it as it takes a film where the great threat is a nail-biting, hidden physical presence and successfully evolves to a film where the threat is (Seemingly) clear and psychological. It takes our established fears and turns them to sympathies all the while maintaining something of the classic frightening atmosphere; there is less suspense, but what is taken is traded for tension and mystery.
In my mind Bates was by far the most engrossing character in the original, with others being little more than confused victims. Psycho II adds dimension by deepening character development as we see a sane but fragile Norman, attempting to reason with past madness as well as cope with a society who sees him as a
thing.
I feel Psycho and it's sequel are two very different films, but both are incredibly effective in their own ways.