Since it got brought up on FB this week, I thought I'd write about it in my blog: Did Jesus exist?
https://lewisliterarylair.blogspot.com/2017/11/was-jesus-of-nazareth-real-person.html
He was a historical person, but he was also a Robin Hood type anti establishment codeword/ legend of sorts or functioned that way.
If you read Revelation, Christianity was anti Roman and anti Jewish or at least anti Pharisees in nature and Jesus was the centerpiece of all that. It had a political as well as a spiritual side.
Quote from: lester1/2jr on November 18, 2017, 08:56:51 PM
He was a historical person, but he was also a Robin Hood type anti establishment codeword/ legend of sorts or functioned that way.
If you read Revelation, Christianity was anti Roman and anti Jewish or at least anti Pharisees in nature and Jesus was the centerpiece of all that. It had a political as well as a spiritual side.
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(I really have no opinion on the issue but I enjoy poking Indy).
you need to go to the churches!
That was beautifully composed, Indy. Well reasoned and well-written.
Rev, for some reason I can no longer see video links in this forum, so I have no idea what you posted.
Prolly.
Quote from: indianasmith on November 18, 2017, 11:20:49 PM
Rev, for some reason I can no longer see video links in this forum, so I have no idea what you posted.
Me either, but you can always click on the link. It's a fairly silly song.
People who don't believe Jesus existed are called mythicists. There are two main ones: one of them is robert price whose "bible geek" podcast is awesome (he also has a Lovecraft one I've never heard). The other is this guy Richard Carrier who is so annoying it's practically incredible. I have no real skin in the game in the debate, but he is so full of himself and has a gross polyamory thing going... its makes it easy to just write the whole thing off.
is your issue polyamory itself, or is it HIM practicing it that bugs you, lester?
No, he is just gross and awful and arrogant . People can do what they want
I do believe in him, maybe because I am Catholic and I have known him since I was young. I do respect the atheist but then again we have different beliefs and it is only a matter of acceptance.
There is a huge line between "I believe Jesus was a historically significant figure but not the Son of God," and "Jesus of Nazareth never existed."
His deity is a matter of theology, but his existence is a matter of history, which is what I tried to explain.
But thanks to all who took the time to read my scribblings! :cheers:
Theres not much of a record of anyone from back then. Pontius Pilate appears on some sort of leger and relatively recently they found a coin from that era. other than that there is techniically no "record" of him. Jesus in his life was a very margenalized figure I mean thats kind of the point
Jesus is better represented in history than the ten year governor of Judea, that's true.
Quote from: indianasmith on November 18, 2017, 11:20:49 PM
Rev, for some reason I can no longer see video links in this forum, so I have no idea what you posted.
I can't either! :buggedout:
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 22, 2017, 12:43:14 AM
Quote from: indianasmith on November 18, 2017, 11:20:49 PM
Rev, for some reason I can no longer see video links in this forum, so I have no idea what you posted.
I can't either! :buggedout:
Me either, I think it finally broke. :bluesad:
Quote from: Rev. Powell on November 22, 2017, 08:40:15 AM
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 22, 2017, 12:43:14 AM
Quote from: indianasmith on November 18, 2017, 11:20:49 PM
Rev, for some reason I can no longer see video links in this forum, so I have no idea what you posted.
I can't either! :buggedout:
Me either, I think it finally broke. :bluesad:
Well sum b***h. :bluesad:
I think you need the latest version of Flash for the videos to work l.
Quote from: Pacman000 on November 22, 2017, 11:23:51 PM
I think you need the latest version of Flash for the videos to work l.
And pray tell-how do I get that? :question:
Following link should do it. https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Just remember to untick the boxes in the middle column if you don't wan't McAfee installed as well.
Quote from: Dark Alex on November 23, 2017, 01:29:40 AM
Following link should do it. https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Just remember to untick the boxes in the middle column if you don't wan't McAfee installed as well.
I'll give it a try-thanx! :thumbup:
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 23, 2017, 06:52:22 AM
Quote from: Dark Alex on November 23, 2017, 01:29:40 AM
Following link should do it. https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Just remember to untick the boxes in the middle column if you don't wan't McAfee installed as well.
I'll give it a try-thanx! :thumbup:
Worked for me. I never even thought of it because Flash usually (or at least used to) prompt me to update it when it was out-of-date.
This has me wondering if Adobe and MacAfee were or are ever real :wink:
Quote from: Rev. Powell on November 23, 2017, 08:43:21 AM
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 23, 2017, 06:52:22 AM
Quote from: Dark Alex on November 23, 2017, 01:29:40 AM
Following link should do it. https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Just remember to untick the boxes in the middle column if you don't wan't McAfee installed as well.
I'll give it a try-thanx! :thumbup:
Worked for me. I never even thought of it because Flash usually (or at least used to) prompt me to update it when it was out-of-date.
Worked for me too! Thanks, Alex! :cheers:
Glad I could be of some asisstance and hopefully its solved your issues.
This has to be the biggest change of topic I have ever seen on a thread, from was Jesus real to computer troubleshooting.
Quote from: Dark Alex on November 23, 2017, 12:32:00 PM
Glad I could be of some asisstance and hopefully its solved your issues.
This has to be the biggest change of topic I have ever seen on a thread, from was Jesus real to computer troubleshooting.
Yer the man with the plan! I think Jesus was real and a great guy-!
But I'm more impressed with Alex. He gave me my youtube back! :cheers:
I'm not sure Dark Alex is real. I tried his fix and STILL can't see the video links.
Come to think of it, Ronnie - are YOU real?? :question:
Hmm, what browser do you use and does that maybe need an update? After that I'd look at my graphics card driver etc. A thought occured to me while at was at work, possibly a Java update?
And no I am not real. I am a dream to some... a nightmare to others! (I'd offer karma for identifying that quote, but I think that one is too easy).
Quote from: indianasmith on November 23, 2017, 09:16:55 PM
I'm not sure Dark Alex is real. I tried his fix and STILL can't see the video links.
Come to think of it, Ronnie - are YOU real?? :question:
I am real-real ugly!
Quote from: indianasmith on November 23, 2017, 09:16:55 PM
I'm not sure Dark Alex is real. I tried his fix and STILL can't see the video links.
Come to think of it, Ronnie - are YOU real?? :question:
Some newer browsers block Flash by default: https://petapixel.com/2016/08/17/major-browsers-will-soon-block-flash-website-ready/
What browser are you using? Do you get a warning message?
Quote from: Pacman000 on November 24, 2017, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: indianasmith on November 23, 2017, 09:16:55 PM
I'm not sure Dark Alex is real. I tried his fix and STILL can't see the video links.
Come to think of it, Ronnie - are YOU real?? :question:
Some newer browsers block Flash by default: https://petapixel.com/2016/08/17/major-browsers-will-soon-block-flash-website-ready/
What browser are you using? Do you get a warning message?
Alex is right, I use Microsoft Edge and it is a fight to get Flash to get to work. I need to get lucky and have it work on specific websites.
I'm on Windows 7 with IE as my browser. I used to be able to see all the YouTube links on here; they just disappeared in the last month or so.
IE could be the problem. I am not sure it is still being updated by Microsoft. I looked on Edge and couldn't see the videos there either, but everything seems fine on Firefox. If you want to try that one you can get it here... https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/new/ (https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/new/)
Quote from: Dark Alex on November 24, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
IE could be the problem. I am not sure it is still being updated by Microsoft. I looked on Edge and couldn't see the videos there either, but everything seems fine on Firefox. If you want to try that one you can get it here... https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/new/ (https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/new/)
Agreed, if it bothers you try Edge, Firefox or Chrome. IE is dead, sorry (and unlike Jesus, no one believes it's coming back---to get things back on topic!)
Quote from: RCMerchant on November 24, 2017, 06:07:29 AM
Quote from: indianasmith on November 23, 2017, 09:16:55 PM
I'm not sure Dark Alex is real. I tried his fix and STILL can't see the video links.
Come to think of it, Ronnie - are YOU real?? :question:
I am real-real ugly!
:bouncegiggle:
Quote from: indianasmith on November 18, 2017, 04:00:14 PM
Since it got brought up on FB this week, I thought I'd write about it in my blog: Did Jesus exist?
https://lewisliterarylair.blogspot.com/2017/11/was-jesus-of-nazareth-real-person.html
I am amazed at the stupidity or willful ignorance that people often possess.
Lewis, you did a fantastic job. :thumbup:
Quote from: Dark Alex on November 24, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
IE could be the problem. I am not sure it is still being updated by Microsoft. I looked on Edge and couldn't see the videos there either, but everything seems fine on Firefox. If you want to try that one you can get it here... https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/new/ (https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/new/)
Mine quit working shortly after I upgraded my flash. Now I downloaded Foxfire-and it works again.
Ok, so anyone else still having problems after trying switching browsers?
this is like the part of the bible when the donkey won't go into the city and God gives it the power of speech "stop hitting me"
Donkeys exist, too!
and they still talk - just listen to any political press conference!
http://youtu.be/hYlvfX3nwlc (http://youtu.be/hYlvfX3nwlc)