This film will be released soon in the USA but is currently screening here.
I am very tempted to go see it and tell you all about it.
What say you? 😳😉😉😉🐢
Umm, plans changed. Tickets are ZAR 200 😳😳 $11 in USD 😳😳😳😳🐢
Welcome to North American movie theater ticket prices! :smile:
Actually $11 is reasonable here...
... what are ticket prices usually over there? Let me know so I can tell whether I need to hate you more or not.
They aren't allowing critics to preview it. It's going to be a disaster.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on March 15, 2025, 09:18:34 AMThey aren't allowing critics to preview it. It's going to be a disaster.
😳😳🤭
If I could afford the ticket, I would review it for us at least.
my nearest cinema charges £17.95 a ticket, that's over $23. mind you, they do have very comfy chairs.
has this SNOW WHITE had the WINNIE THE POOH treatment and gone all nu-horror stylee?
Quote from: chainsaw midget on March 15, 2025, 08:39:42 AM... what are ticket prices usually over there? Let me know so I can tell whether I need to hate you more or not.
🤭😀😃
It has to be better then the Winnie-the-Pooh murderer universe take on it....
^ it's going to be a "woke" version by the looks of it. Controversies:
- The casting of Rachel Zegler, a Latina actress, as Snow White.
- Seven Dwarfs. Disney consulting with members of the dwarfism community prior to filming.
- Rachel Zegler's criticism of the 1937 film (issues with the "stalkerish" love story)
- Gal Gadot and Rachel Zegler's Political Views (Gadot is pro Israel, Zegler is pro Palestine)
Quote from: claws on March 16, 2025, 06:17:10 AM- Seven Dwarfs. Disney consulting with members of the dwarfism community prior to filming.
one of my brothers directed a stage production of THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME a few years ago. Quasimido is apparently deaf (I never knew that) and my brother said they absolutely had to cast a deaf actor in the role, otherwise it would be 'wrong'... but when I said doesn't that therefore mean you have to cast an actor who literally has a hunched back he said definitely not, that would also be 'wrong'... how does that make sense? :question:
Quote from: claws on March 16, 2025, 06:17:10 AM^ it's going to be a "woke" version by the looks of it. Controversies:
- The casting of Rachel Zegler, a Latina actress, as Snow White.
- Seven Dwarfs. Disney consulting with members of the dwarfism community prior to filming.
- Rachel Zegler's criticism of the 1937 film (issues with the "stalkerish" love story)
- Gal Gadot and Rachel Zegler's Political Views (Gadot is pro Israel, Zegler is pro Palestine)
And the seven dwarfs were originally supposed to be one dwarf & six DEI hires, until Peter Dinklage went on twitter & ticked off the dwarf community....
Quote from: LilCerberus on March 16, 2025, 12:04:41 PMQuote from: claws on March 16, 2025, 06:17:10 AM^ it's going to be a "woke" version by the looks of it. Controversies:
- The casting of Rachel Zegler, a Latina actress, as Snow White.
- Seven Dwarfs. Disney consulting with members of the dwarfism community prior to filming.
- Rachel Zegler's criticism of the 1937 film (issues with the "stalkerish" love story)
- Gal Gadot and Rachel Zegler's Political Views (Gadot is pro Israel, Zegler is pro Palestine)
And the seven dwarfs were originally supposed to be one dwarf & six DEI hires, until Peter Dinklage went on twitter & ticked off the dwarf community....
:buggedout: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :wink:
This looks like a trainwreck and I'm all in for it.😁
Surprisingly, given the controversy and low expectations, early reviews were extremely positive.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on March 19, 2025, 10:25:09 AMSurprisingly, given the controversy and low expectations, early reviews were extremely positive.
Some YT commentators said Disney paid those reviewers to say nice things 😊
Current ratings:
IMDb 2,1 :buggedout:
RT 48%
clearly needed a Seagal cameo, guaranteed to boost up that imdb rating by 0.3 points
Quote from: claws on March 20, 2025, 05:06:17 AMCurrent ratings:
IMDb 2,1 :buggedout:
RT 48%
That IMDB rating was surely faked by trolls, there's no rating listed now. RT 47% is accurate, which is bad, but not "Madame Web" bad. Disney did pick and choose critics they knew would give out favorable ratings for the earliest screenings, embargoing reviews for everyone else.
Quote from: zombie no.one on March 20, 2025, 09:39:10 AMclearly needed a Seagal cameo, guaranteed to boost up that imdb rating by 0.3 points
:bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:
IMDb and RT ratings listed at the moment:
2,4 IMDb
2,5 (15.468) when I click directly on Snow White's IMDb page
44% RT
"...neither good enough to admire nor bad enough to joyfully skewer."--"The New York Times"
If anything, it officially made IMDb's 1000 Bottom Rated Movies:
QuoteBottom Rated Movies: #37
Quote from: claws on March 22, 2025, 10:22:58 PMIf anything, it officially made IMDb's 1000 Bottom Rated Movies:
QuoteBottom Rated Movies: #37
That has to be an organized trolling campaign. Sure, it's mediocre to bad, but worst of all time? No way. People don't realize how statistically low a 2.2 IMDB rating is, it's almost impossible to achieve. Plan 9 from Outer Space is a 3.9. Troll 2 is a 3.0. Last year's mega-bomb "Madame Web" was a 4.0.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on March 23, 2025, 09:52:18 AMThat has to be an organized trolling campaign.
IMDb does pay attention in some cases. During the Depp v. Heard trial in 2022, Amber Heard's 2019 film
Gully (released in the U.S. in 2021) was suddenly bombarded with downvotes. A quick glance at the user reviews makes it clear that many of these accounts were trolls.
Despite
Gully holding a 2.8 rating, IMDb has excluded it from the
Bottom Rated Movies list, likely recognizing the impact of "Team Depp" downvoting the film en masse.
IMDb has yet to take action against the (allegedly?) organized trolling of
Snow White.
Boxofficemojo.com reports that after two days in release at 4200 cinemas, the film has made $43 million. Not looking good so far 😳😳
It's now down to 2.0 and Bottom Rated Movies: #15
Quote from: claws on March 24, 2025, 07:19:47 AMIt's now down to 2.0 and Bottom Rated Movies: #15
I looked this up, & it's behind stuff that's streaming...
Box office reports seam to have it at #1 ahead of stuff that's doing way worse....
1,9 (74.254) just now but not included in the Bottom Rated Movies anymore.
Unlike Gully mentioned above, there are pretty much no one sentence reviews by obvious troll accounts for Snow White. Weird.
my 2c, I don't think there's anything specifically 'organised' about this... every now and then a new film seems to encapsulate everything that gets on a significant proportion of people's nerves, and it ends up being used as a kind of cathartic punchbag. it happened with the GHOSTBUSTERS remake
Quote from: zombie no.one on March 25, 2025, 03:56:40 AMit happened with the GHOSTBUSTERS remake
I have been following the Ghostbusters remake rating at IMDb when the film was released. It was around 5.1 for a long time, which is low but certainly not too low. The rating actually went up over the years. It now has a 6.8 rating, which is pretty good.
Maybe the same will happen with Snow White. We shall see.
As far as organized downvoting goes, they actually did organize one in Germany when the film Daniel the Wizard (2004) hit theaters. It was a vanity project for German singer Daniel Küblböck, who was equally loved and hated in Germany.
By all means, the film is honestly awful (directed by Uli Lommel) and would've been downvoted over the years regardless.
Hmm, I had seen the title DANIEL THE WIZARD in the lowest-rated movies and wondered about it.
I agree that SNOW WHITE's IMDB rating will go up after the "controversy" has died down.
Quote from: claws on March 25, 2025, 04:01:14 AMQuote from: zombie no.one on March 25, 2025, 03:56:40 AMit happened with the GHOSTBUSTERS remake
I have been following the Ghostbusters remake rating at IMDb when the film was released. It was around 5.1 for a long time, which is low but certainly not too low. The rating actually went up over the years.
ah... I just remember the trailer being (unless I'm mistaken) the first video on youtube to ever hit 1 million dislikes
Maybe is just that bad? CATS has a 2.8 rating and nobody complained about that number, everybody agree that it's just terrible. I do agree that a lot of people may just rate it low just to be funny and jump in the bandwagon, you can realize this just by looking at the comments in the official trailer of SNOW WHITE, where everyone is trying to make the funnier joke. I wouldn't call this an organized campaign though.
yeah I just watched Mark Kermode's review on youtube. he's probably the most respected and well known english film reviewer alive.. he pointed out he has no issues with any of the politics surrounding the film, but just said it was mostly terrible. (well he said more than that, but you get the gist...)
In my mind, a web troll desires attention. Someone giving a film low ratings isn't a troll; the goal isn't to get attention for a particular poster, but to change a larger aggregate rating.
The Pitch Meeting is funny: https://youtu.be/x0nSFVT-hs0?si=jCRYw7DVddeDe2oN
Comments on that video are funny too.
Quote from: Gabriel Knight on March 28, 2025, 01:12:49 PMMaybe is just that bad? CATS has a 2.8 rating and nobody complained about that number, everybody agree that it's just terrible. I do agree that a lot of people may just rate it low just to be funny and jump in the bandwagon, you can realize this just by looking at the comments in the official trailer of SNOW WHITE, where everyone is trying to make the funnier joke. I wouldn't call this an organized campaign though.
2.8 would be historically low, worst major movie of the decade low, but believable. 1.9 is
insanely low (and it's now
1.5). IMDB is not a linear distribution, it's a normal distribution that's actually shifted towards higher numbers (average rated movies score 6.4, not 5). Think about how bad CATS was, and this is a
whole point lower? That's exponential. It doesn't have to be organized, true, but thousands of 1 star ratings were given not because of the quality of the movie, but because the star insulted Trump and Trump voters.
Quote from: Rev. Powell on March 28, 2025, 03:22:59 PMIt doesn't have to be organized, true, but thousands of 1 star ratings were given not because of the quality of the movie, but because the star insulted Trump and Trump voters.
Well, let's not forget the people who were upset about the casting of an Israeli...
Albeit, I kinda doubt either of these polarizing topics had as much to do with the ratings, as it had to do with this production shouting train wreck from the beginning...
Quote from: Rev. Powell on March 28, 2025, 03:22:59 PMQuote from: Gabriel Knight on March 28, 2025, 01:12:49 PMMaybe is just that bad? CATS has a 2.8 rating and nobody complained about that number, everybody agree that it's just terrible. I do agree that a lot of people may just rate it low just to be funny and jump in the bandwagon, you can realize this just by looking at the comments in the official trailer of SNOW WHITE, where everyone is trying to make the funnier joke. I wouldn't call this an organized campaign though.
2.8 would be historically low, worst major movie of the decade low, but believable. 1.9 is insanely low (and it's now 1.5). IMDB is not a linear distribution, it's a normal distribution that's actually shifted towards higher numbers (average rated movies score 6.4, not 5). Think about how bad CATS was, and this is a whole point lower? That's exponential. It doesn't have to be organized, true, but thousands of 1 star ratings were given not because of the quality of the movie, but because the star insulted Trump and Trump voters.
Not heard of her insulting a politician or TV star. The comments that keep getting dragged out are some she made about the original film; that the prince stalked Snow White, that it was too focused on the romance, & that it was dated & "weird, weird." Those comments would offend conservatives, but they'd go beyond conservatives in the U.S.; basically, they'd tick off anyone who wanted a traditional love story.
Quote from: pacman000 on March 28, 2025, 06:16:41 PMQuote from: Rev. Powell on March 28, 2025, 03:22:59 PMQuote from: Gabriel Knight on March 28, 2025, 01:12:49 PMMaybe is just that bad? CATS has a 2.8 rating and nobody complained about that number, everybody agree that it's just terrible. I do agree that a lot of people may just rate it low just to be funny and jump in the bandwagon, you can realize this just by looking at the comments in the official trailer of SNOW WHITE, where everyone is trying to make the funnier joke. I wouldn't call this an organized campaign though.
2.8 would be historically low, worst major movie of the decade low, but believable. 1.9 is insanely low (and it's now 1.5). IMDB is not a linear distribution, it's a normal distribution that's actually shifted towards higher numbers (average rated movies score 6.4, not 5). Think about how bad CATS was, and this is a whole point lower? That's exponential. It doesn't have to be organized, true, but thousands of 1 star ratings were given not because of the quality of the movie, but because the star insulted Trump and Trump voters.
Not heard of her insulting a politician or TV star. The comments that keep getting dragged out are some she made about the original film; that the prince stalked Snow White, that it was too focused on the romance, & that it was dated & "weird, weird." Those comments would offend conservatives, but they'd go beyond conservatives in the U.S.; basically, they'd tick off anyone who wanted a traditional love story.
You never heard about this? https://www.newsweek.com/rachel-zegler-foulmouthed-donald-trump-tirade-1985787
Not that I recall. Not surprised by it. She did apologize, & she seemed sincere, so I forgive her.
How does this compare with the other live action remakes?
if actors insulting Trump voters on social media guarantees mass boycotts and 1-star pile ons then I think the US film industry might be in trouble :teddyr:
They (?) are pushing Snow White's failure in Zegler's direction after she p**sed off half America with her peace/Trump comments, and having ZERO appreciation for the original Snow White. You can have freedom of speech all you want, but don't be surprised if it comes back to bite you in the arse.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnANyTAa8AAfAti?format=jpg&name=large)
Based on the last several posts, a film I had no interest in has now become a must-see.
:smile: :cheers:
Quote from: claws on March 29, 2025, 05:31:48 AMThey (?) are pushing Snow White's failure in Zegler's direction after she p**sed off half America with her peace/Trump comments, and having ZERO appreciation for the original Snow White. You can have freedom of speech all you want, but don't be surprised if it comes back to bite you in the arse.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnANyTAa8AAfAti?format=jpg&name=large)
😳😳😊😊
Quote from: M.10rda on March 29, 2025, 07:28:37 AMBased on the last several posts, a film I had no interest in has now become a must-see.
:smile: :cheers:
(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/J57BWK/business-conference-business-meeting-business-people-in-formal-J57BWK.jpg)
"the reverse psychology, anti-marketing dollar... that's a big dollar right now, we like that dollar..." :drink: :teddyr:
Quote from: Rev. Powell on March 28, 2025, 08:39:21 PMQuote from: pacman000 on March 28, 2025, 06:16:41 PMQuote from: Rev. Powell on March 28, 2025, 03:22:59 PMQuote from: Gabriel Knight on March 28, 2025, 01:12:49 PMMaybe is just that bad? CATS has a 2.8 rating and nobody complained about that number, everybody agree that it's just terrible. I do agree that a lot of people may just rate it low just to be funny and jump in the bandwagon, you can realize this just by looking at the comments in the official trailer of SNOW WHITE, where everyone is trying to make the funnier joke. I wouldn't call this an organized campaign though.
2.8 would be historically low, worst major movie of the decade low, but believable. 1.9 is insanely low (and it's now 1.5). IMDB is not a linear distribution, it's a normal distribution that's actually shifted towards higher numbers (average rated movies score 6.4, not 5). Think about how bad CATS was, and this is a whole point lower? That's exponential. It doesn't have to be organized, true, but thousands of 1 star ratings were given not because of the quality of the movie, but because the star insulted Trump and Trump voters.
Not heard of her insulting a politician or TV star. The comments that keep getting dragged out are some she made about the original film; that the prince stalked Snow White, that it was too focused on the romance, & that it was dated & "weird, weird." Those comments would offend conservatives, but they'd go beyond conservatives in the U.S.; basically, they'd tick off anyone who wanted a traditional love story.
You never heard about this? https://www.newsweek.com/rachel-zegler-foulmouthed-donald-trump-tirade-1985787
I'd only heard about her saying bad things about he original story.
If she's badmouthing Trump and X, THAT I can support completely.
These remakes all range from barely acceptable to utter drek, and every single one is flatly boring and overlong. Guess what? This one is a half hour longer. They're all just dull.
Kids have horrible taste, so I can't really blame them for seeing and enjoying them, but man, take your kids to something better.
I hate to admit it but this song from Snow White is actually quite good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6mZtq1S0s
Not bad, not bad at all. :smile:
https://youtu.be/x0nSFVT-hs0?si=Wk1iifctBsZ6fzsn
I love these "pitch meetings". This one takes down the movie without even mentioning the controversy.