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Title: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: Trevor on August 28, 2021, 03:58:32 AM
I read that Sirhan Sirhan - who shot RFK dead in 1968 - is going to be paroled. I'm shocked to read that two members of RFK's family were OK with this.  :buggedout:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58364572 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58364572)

Any thoughts on this?


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: RCMerchant on August 28, 2021, 07:42:23 AM
f**k Sirhan Sirhan.


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 28, 2021, 09:07:03 AM
The man is 77 and has been incarcerated for 53 years.  His terrible crime falls way down the list of evil acts by living people serving a prison sentence.  If KENNEDY's family can find forgiveness, I wouldn't question it. 


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: RCMerchant on August 28, 2021, 09:09:54 AM
I would have executed that waste of space 53 years ago.


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: Rev. Powell on August 28, 2021, 09:15:47 AM
I'm OK with it. 50 years is a long time. This is no longer the same young radical who killed RFK, and the parole board found his profession of remorse sincere. He's going to die soon and he's not a danger to anyone else. Mercy is good.


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: RCMerchant on August 28, 2021, 09:25:37 AM
The Manson girls were teens when hey did they're crazy sh!t. Should they be paroled?
Honest question.


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: Rev. Powell on August 28, 2021, 10:00:25 AM
The Manson girls were teens when hey did they're crazy sh!t. Should they be paroled?
Honest question.

Maybe. Are they a threat to the public? Are they genuinely remorseful? Are they near the end of their lives? Would they families of the victims be OK with it? If all those things are true, I'd say yes, absolutely.

Manson himself could never have been paroled because he never overcame his mental illness or showed that he had changed.


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: RCMerchant on August 28, 2021, 10:20:31 AM
  ^ But all those people they killed are still dead.
I'm sorry. I don't have that kind of forgiveness in me. Not for anyone who murders.


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 28, 2021, 10:21:49 AM
The Manson girls were teens when hey did they're crazy sh!t. Should they be paroled?
Honest question.

Assassination is a very different crime than murdering a houseful of people for the sake of murder.   As strange as this might sound, assassination is not personal.  I do not believe that any criminal involved in multiple homicides should be paroled.  The two in TX  helped the Houston Mass Murderer to kidnap, rape and torture dozens.  No mercy was shown to victims and none should be extended. 


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: RCMerchant on August 28, 2021, 10:27:36 AM
The Manson girls were teens when hey did they're crazy sh!t. Should they be paroled?
Honest question.

Assassination is a very different crime than murdering a houseful of people for the sake of murder.   As strange as this might sound, assassination is not personal.  I do not believe that any criminal involved in multiple homicides should be paroled.  The two in TX  helped the Houston Mass Murderer to kidnap, rape and torture dozens.  No mercy was shown to victims and none should be extended.  

Dead is dead. Paint it anyway you want.

Texas?  :question:
When did killing someone become a forgivible crime?  :question:
Except for war, of course.  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 28, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
...Dead is dead. Paint it anyway you want.

Texas?  :question:
When did killing someone become a forgivible crime?  :question:
Except for war, of course.  :lookingup:
 

Nope.  No free pass.  What the hell are you on about at this hour of the day?  Did you READ what I wrote about Texas?  Sure doesn't seem it. 
Yes, "dead is dead".  This discussion is about PUNISHMENT.


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: Allhallowsday on August 28, 2021, 05:45:50 PM
...Texas?  :question:
...


The two accomplices were both very young when those murders were committed and both survive in Texas prisons since 1973 and no parole yet.
I do feel that certain crimes warrant the death penalty, but that is off the table. These criminals, like sirhan sirhan, live. 


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: pennywise37 on September 07, 2021, 02:25:25 AM
i had no idea he was even still alive. as for should the manson girls get paroled honestly i'd love to say yes but they should be looked at to see if they have changed. i was looking them up recently and the one that was the beauty Queen is still a crazy b***h. but there was one of them that did seem to have changed now should be be let out? i dunno if she has changed and wasn't faking it i mean it has been over 50 years but i dunno still.
they would need to have someone who could tell if she was faking it before they say yes. 



Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: The Burgomaster on September 07, 2021, 10:20:22 AM
Murder is murder. You're being punished for what you did, not the person you are today. You feel remorseful? Wonderful. You aren't a threat anymore? Wonderful. But you did what you did and the person you killed doesn't benefit from your remorse, so stay in prison. You're lucky to be alive.


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: pennywise37 on September 07, 2021, 03:15:38 PM
i'm not arguing with you but there are some people who have loved ones murdered that do forgive them and even at times wanted them to come out of jail at some point and even told them to either let them out or to instead of giving them the needle than to give them life in prison instead.

i dunno the ratio on that and i don't think i could forgive anyone i loved that they killed but that's why i said i don't know.  i don't think Lennon's Killer will ever get out even though by now he should have been out i mean on how many years he was sentenced.  honestly i've always said that if he ever does come a huge Beatles fan or a huge John Lennon fan not everyone loves the beatles will prolly end up killing him but than who knows maybe i'm wrong on that.

in the world today you never know what stupid things people will do, very little  of it i still get surprised but with the pandemic going on not as much as i used to be.


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: RCMerchant on September 08, 2021, 11:58:06 AM
His widow has this to say:

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/08/1035114359/ethel-kennedy-rfks-widow-says-sirhan-sirhan-should-not-be-released (https://www.npr.org/2021/09/08/1035114359/ethel-kennedy-rfks-widow-says-sirhan-sirhan-should-not-be-released)


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: pennywise37 on September 08, 2021, 08:32:11 PM
she wants him to stay in i can respect that. i didn't say everyone forgives the killer just that some do and i wouldn't be surprised if it is a rare thing too.
now if it was my spouse or child than uh no i wouldn't be so forgiving but that is me and no doubt that's anyone on here really


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: RCMerchant on September 08, 2021, 09:42:43 PM
^ I dunno. All serial killers, mass murders, or just killing people because of politics-who have been convicted- should have been stuck in the electric chair. I don't even know if that still exists.



Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: pennywise37 on September 08, 2021, 10:02:02 PM
i think it does, if i recall Texas still does it or they did anyways i dunno if they've stopped using it though they do have the death penalty if i recall


Title: Re: Robert F Kennedy's killer to be paroled
Post by: pacman000 on September 08, 2021, 10:13:58 PM
Not Texas; they use lethal injection. No state uses the electric chair as their primary method anymore; a few states use it as an alternate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_chair