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Started by KYGOTC, February 22, 2008, 12:36:54 AM

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RCMerchant

I really NEED to get a copy of the totally uncut version of I DRINK YOUR BLOOD...as my copy seems to be butchered beyond belief! Problem is...which is the most "complete version"? Many catalogs say 'UNCUT'...yet rarley are,for this film.
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CheezeFlixz

Quote from: RCMerchant on February 23, 2008, 05:33:42 PM
I really NEED to get a copy of the totally uncut version of I DRINK YOUR BLOOD...as my copy seems to be butchered beyond belief! Problem is...which is the most "complete version"? Many catalogs say 'UNCUT'...yet rarley are,for this film.

I think the 90 minute cut is complete, I looked around at a number of vendors and that only cut I could find was 83 minutes. But I'll keep an eye out for you.

RCMerchant

Quote from: CheezeFlixz on February 23, 2008, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on February 23, 2008, 05:33:42 PM
I really NEED to get a copy of the totally uncut version of I DRINK YOUR BLOOD...as my copy seems to be butchered beyond belief! Problem is...which is the most "complete version"? Many catalogs say 'UNCUT'...yet rarley are,for this film.

I think the 90 minute cut is complete, I looked around at a number of vendors and that only cut I could find was 83 minutes. But I'll keep an eye out for you.

Thanks! The version I have is missing the leg getting chopped off, the rape scene, the Asian woman pours gas on herself...yet not getting afire...basically...all the good stuff!
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
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Allhallowsday

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Quote from: KYGOTC on February 22, 2008, 12:28:58 PM
haha! No, man! Thats my poor spelling. I meant the stuff you put on a sandwitch! haha!
You spelled mayonnaise correctly... but not sandwich...  :smile: 

Quote from: CheezeFlixz on February 22, 2008, 10:47:12 PM
Would you paint a tank-top on Adolphe Bouguereau's 'Evening Mood'? I don't think so, so why edit classic movies and cartoon that were produces in different political era? 
If you want to view paradise . . . simply look around and view it!

CheezeFlixz

Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 23, 2008, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: CheezeFlixz on February 22, 2008, 10:47:12 PM
Would you paint a tank-top on Adolphe Bouguereau's 'Evening Mood'? I don't think so, so why edit classic movies and cartoon that were produces in different political era? 


BLASPHEMER!!

Allhallowsday

Quote from: CheezeFlixz on February 24, 2008, 02:22:00 AM
BLASPHEMER!!
Well the point about censorship has been made!  Besides, if I can't post the album cover to JIMI HENDRIX's Electric Ladyland, I don't think the painting would be well received... here's a link to the uncensored image. 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Bouguereau-Evening_Mood_1882.jpg
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peter johnson

As has been noted before on this board, Blockbuster does in-house edits and airbrushing on their tapes & discs --
Cases in point:  David Lynch's Mulhollland Drive -- various full-frontal shots are digitized out --
Ditto anime -- Blockbuster carries some obscure/extreme titles, which I can't for the life of me remember the Japanese, but when you watch them, some of the cartoon nudity also features digitized genetalia.
I have always found this bafflingly absurd, as Blockbuster also produces and stocks their own line of softcore porn videos.
Blockbuster is editing an intellectual property in a way to suit their worldview, and, as such, are practicing censorship.  This I find quite annoying, and therefore avoid Blockbuster as a source of vids.
peter johnson/denny crane
I have no idea what this means.

KYGOTC

Quote from: peter johnson on February 25, 2008, 11:24:57 AM
As has been noted before on this board, Blockbuster does in-house edits and airbrushing on their tapes & discs --
Cases in point:  David Lynch's Mulhollland Drive -- various full-frontal shots are digitized out --
Ditto anime -- Blockbuster carries some obscure/extreme titles, which I can't for the life of me remember the Japanese, but when you watch them, some of the cartoon nudity also features digitized genetalia.
I have always found this bafflingly absurd, as Blockbuster also produces and stocks their own line of softcore porn videos.
Blockbuster is editing an intellectual property in a way to suit their worldview, and, as such, are practicing censorship.  This I find quite annoying, and therefore avoid Blockbuster as a source of vids.
peter johnson/denny crane

Thats why I've boycotted blockbuster. BOOOOO!!
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The Dungeonmaster

Quote from: KYGOTC on February 22, 2008, 12:54:17 PM
Quote from: ulthar on February 22, 2008, 09:37:49 AM

So, who is stopping that?  I mean, what government agency is stopping any film maker from including scenes like that?

Last I checked, American directors can put pretty much anything they want into a film.  What they include will effect the rating, but that does NOTHING to prevent any adult from purchasing or viewing any material they want.  You only have to be 18 years old to watch anything that floats your boat, from teen angst, stupid comedy, outright porn or raw, realistic looking violence.  That's younger than you can legally buy an alcoholic beverage or in some states own a certain types of firearms.

Where is the censorship, in the US anyway?


I never said that the government is censoring movies. It's the PRODUCERS and MOVIE DISTRIBUTERS that say what stays and what goes.

No, but you did blame it on a "stuffy editor". America has A LOT of freedom with what we can put in films. The "censorship" has more to do with the distribution companies worrying about their bottom line. And if the only reason you watch films is for the extreme gore, just watch some real death videos. Like Traces of Death or Faces of Gore.

Justy

Quote from: The Dungeonmaster on March 03, 2008, 02:43:06 AM
Quote from: KYGOTC on February 22, 2008, 12:54:17 PM
Quote from: ulthar on February 22, 2008, 09:37:49 AM

So, who is stopping that?  I mean, what government agency is stopping any film maker from including scenes like that?

Last I checked, American directors can put pretty much anything they want into a film.  What they include will effect the rating, but that does NOTHING to prevent any adult from purchasing or viewing any material they want.  You only have to be 18 years old to watch anything that floats your boat, from teen angst, stupid comedy, outright porn or raw, realistic looking violence.  That's younger than you can legally buy an alcoholic beverage or in some states own a certain types of firearms.

Where is the censorship, in the US anyway?


I never said that the government is censoring movies. It's the PRODUCERS and MOVIE DISTRIBUTERS that say what stays and what goes.

No, but you did blame it on a "stuffy editor". America has A LOT of freedom with what we can put in films. The "censorship" has more to do with the distribution companies worrying about their bottom line. And if the only reason you watch films is for the extreme gore, just watch some real death videos. Like Traces of Death or Faces of Gore.

I agree here. There are too many many people running around finding censorship under every rock and throwing political charges like anarchists tossing around Molotov cocktails. I think more people enjoy the idea of fighting censorship rather than truly understanding what they're angry against. Today the issue is the economic bottom line. What is going to sell. What is going to attract people to your arthouse rather than offending sensibilities. It's demographics.

I'm not saying that there isn't censorship, of course there is. Anyone can dredge up an example. People just need to understand the difference between marketing and censorship.

Concerning anime, the pixelized genitalia is accordance to Japanese obscenity laws. It is illegal to depict the naughty bits in photo, film or animation.

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KYGOTC

Quote from: The Dungeonmaster on March 03, 2008, 02:43:06 AM
Quote from: KYGOTC on February 22, 2008, 12:54:17 PM
Quote from: ulthar on February 22, 2008, 09:37:49 AM

So, who is stopping that?  I mean, what government agency is stopping any film maker from including scenes like that?

Last I checked, American directors can put pretty much anything they want into a film.  What they include will effect the rating, but that does NOTHING to prevent any adult from purchasing or viewing any material they want.  You only have to be 18 years old to watch anything that floats your boat, from teen angst, stupid comedy, outright porn or raw, realistic looking violence.  That's younger than you can legally buy an alcoholic beverage or in some states own a certain types of firearms.

Where is the censorship, in the US anyway?


I never said that the government is censoring movies. It's the PRODUCERS and MOVIE DISTRIBUTERS that say what stays and what goes.

No, but you did blame it on a "stuffy editor". America has A LOT of freedom with what we can put in films. The "censorship" has more to do with the distribution companies worrying about their bottom line. And if the only reason you watch films is for the extreme gore, just watch some real death videos. Like Traces of Death or Faces of Gore.


But I DONT watch movies just for over the top gore. Infact, I HATE faces of death.
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KYGOTC

Quote from: Justy on March 03, 2008, 09:15:47 AM

Concerning anime, the pixelized genitalia is accordance to Japanese obscenity laws. It is illegal to depict the naughty bits in photo, film or animation.

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Have you ever watched "shin Chan"? They show his junk all the time in that show.
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Oldskool138

Quote from: Justy on March 03, 2008, 09:15:47 AM
Concerning anime, the pixelized genitalia is accordance to Japanese obscenity laws. It is illegal to depict the naughty bits in photo, film or animation.

What about Legend of the Overfiend?
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Justy

Quote from: KYGOTC on March 03, 2008, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: Justy on March 03, 2008, 09:15:47 AM

Concerning anime, the pixelized genitalia is accordance to Japanese obscenity laws. It is illegal to depict the naughty bits in photo, film or animation.

Have you ever watched "shin Chan"? They show his junk all the time in that show.

I haven't seen Shin Chan so I'm not sure how much of his package their showing. Their laws are very particular. I think that they can get away with showing it in vague detail. It may just be the top that they can't show in detail. I'm not sure of the specifics. I know that many producers just pixelate the whole thing to be safe.

It could also be an international edition where they just animate everything in detail and sell the non-pixellated version outside of Japan.  
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Justy

Quote from: Oldskool138 on March 03, 2008, 10:16:26 AM
Quote from: Justy on March 03, 2008, 09:15:47 AM
Concerning anime, the pixelized genitalia is accordance to Japanese obscenity laws. It is illegal to depict the naughty bits in photo, film or animation.

What about Legend of the Overfiend?

Naughty tentacles are different.

Hey it's not my rules you'll have to get the current list of what is or isn't obscene from the Japanese bureaucracy.
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