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Plan 9 - In color!

Started by Jack, February 20, 2008, 11:38:30 AM

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ghouck

I think many are being a bit overly sensitive. It's not like they're taking away the B/W version, they're just putting out a colorized version of it, AS IF colorizing could POSSIBLY hurt that film. I'm betting the colorization brings out a completely new level of incompetence.

Quote"People that don't watch B/W movies don't deserve them".

C'mon, that's a bit arrogant don't you say? It's no different than if someone said "Anyone that doesn't want to see everything in color doesn't deserve a television"

Quote"If it was made in B/W than it was meant to be seen only in B/W."

And you speak for all writers/directors? Do you really believe EVERY B/W film would have still been made in B/W if color was a viable option at the time?

I'm amazed to see this level of elietism and arrogance here, I've never seen it before.
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Xenorama

i guess i should have put a  :bouncegiggle: there or something after my "don't deserve it" comment, but hearing stupid little kids talk about how bad b/w movies are just because they are b/w gets on my nerves (i don't mean people here, just in "real" life).  but no, i don't say it's arrogant.

but i do believe it's true.  there's an art to shooting in b/w, and the colors are designed to make you see them properly.  things are lit differently as well.  Superman's colors in the b/w season and serials are gray and lighter gray, not the traditional colors.  so most of the time they aren't even crayonizing the movies to the colors used.

but you are right about not having to watch the colorized movies.  still, younger fans that don't watch old movies, color or not, aren't gonna suddenly say "i better watch Plan 9 now that it's in color", or 20,000,000 MILES TO EARTH or anything. just not gonna happen.

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Quote from: Xenorama on February 28, 2008, 02:31:24 PM
i guess i should have put a  :bouncegiggle: there or something after my "don't deserve it" comment, but hearing stupid little kids talk about how bad b/w movies are just because they are b/w gets on my nerves (i don't mean people here, just in "real" life).  but no, i don't say it's arrogant.

People who think that b/w movies are boring or stupid because they are b/w have never seen Young Frankenstein.
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raj

It's heresy, I say, heresy.

A good (or bad) b&w movie just has such a different feel to it, much like b&w photography.  Adding color to it just takes away the whole atmosphere, the subtle shadowing.  Could you imagine The Maltese Falcon or the Big Sleep in color?  Shudder.


ghouck

I agree with you partially Raj, but really, Plan 9 ain't no Maltese Falcon. I agree coloring a B/W film/picture CAN change things like the atmosphere, , but honestly, many movies don't have any in the first place. Sometimes that change is good, sometimes not, and for any given film, some will like the change, some will not. But, to lay a blanket statement regarding all B/W films is, well, arrogant, as if one is invalidating opposing opinions.

Quotestill, younger fans that don't watch old movies, color or not, aren't gonna suddenly say "i better watch Plan 9 now that it's in color", or 20,000,000 MILES TO EARTH or anything. just not gonna happen.

Of course some will be more likely to suit through a movie one way or the other. When I get the colorized version of Plan 9, I bet I'll watch it more than the B/W version. I'm just not seeing what "atmosphere" or "art" is going to be "covered" by colorizing it. 
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Happiness is green text in the "Stuff To Watch For" section.

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Rev. Powell

In most cases, nothing is going to be subtracted by colorizing a B&W movie.  But I can't think of many cases where something will be added by colorization. 
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CheezeFlixz

BHAH!! Something are just better left alone ... I don't like it when someone that was on the movie, didn't work on the movie sets down 50 years later at a computer and says ... "You know I think that shirt looks better blue than green." There is no way of knowing I don't believe of knowing what the exact colors were, it's someones opinion that had nothing to do with the movie originally.
Besides B/W gives it more of that dreamy feel than the realism of color. Leave something to the imagination.

Patient7

Cheeze, I had to give you karma because of that argument.  You made such of a point about one person's opinion literally changing the substance of a movie AND there is the fact that when a movie is in black and white, it allows the imagination to work a little more, I think that, that shirt is dark blue.  I think that it's dark green.  It doesn't matter it's the way I see it.  However, when colorized you see things in the color the film company made something to make it more visible.  Green smoke???  How incompetent!
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