Terminator Salvation

[WilliamWeird1313]

If you watch T1 and T2, you see those short segments that give us glimpses into the future, and you get extremely stoked and you're like "man, I really wanna see that... I hope they make a movie of THAT someday," but I think that, in general, you don't really mean that. 'Cause it works better with the mystery intact. It works better when you have no idea what's REALLY happening in the future, and you're imagination fills in the gaps for you. When you actually show us the things that've been only in our heads for years, then there's no way that it's gonna compare, and all you'll end up doing (as Salvation did) is ruin our own visions with mediocre ones contrived by half-interested writers pumping out a lackluster storyline in an interpretation of the mythos that pales in comparison to the brief glimpses we were given before.

The thing is, those short sequences in "Terminator" were done in 1984. They look far better than the whole of TS, made 25 years later with huge sums of money and "advanced" technology at the filmmakers disposal. 

Even the crappy Sega and SNES Terminator games were more badass that this $ludge.

Isn't that a beeyotch?

[Frogger]

If you watch T1 and T2, you see those short segments that give us glimpses into the future, and you get extremely stoked and you're like "man, I really wanna see that... I hope they make a movie of THAT someday," but I think that, in general, you don't really mean that. 'Cause it works better with the mystery intact. It works better when you have no idea what's REALLY happening in the future, and you're imagination fills in the gaps for you. When you actually show us the things that've been only in our heads for years, then there's no way that it's gonna compare, and all you'll end up doing (as Salvation did) is ruin our own visions with mediocre ones contrived by half-interested writers pumping out a lackluster storyline in an interpretation of the mythos that pales in comparison to the brief glimpses we were given before.

The thing is, those short sequences in "Terminator" were done in 1984. They look far better than the whole of TS, made 25 years later with huge sums of money and "advanced" technology at the filmmakers disposal. 

Even the crappy Sega and SNES Terminator games were more badass that this $ludge.

I have to agree both the short sequences and the old games which managed to capture them, were excellent.

I just could not get past the whole taken people to harvest their flesh part of TS.... Made no sense like a few other parts.

[akiratubo]

Poo on you all.  I like T4.   

[sp33dy]

I loved the start of this movie I thought it would blow the roof off but it didn't I hated this movie you just cant make a terminator movie without Arnold

[akiratubo]

I loved the start of this movie I thought it would blow the roof off but it didn't I hated this movie you just cant make a terminator movie without Arnold

Sure you can.  You don't need Arnold, you just need Terminator robots.  I think T2 and T3 would have been stronger movies without Arnold, honestly.  It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that Skynet would keep cranking out Terminators that look alike.  Humans would catch on pretty quick that enormous, Austrian bodybuilders are not to be trusted.

[Rev. Powell]

Humans would catch on pretty quick that enormous, Austrian bodybuilders are not to be trusted.

Nonsense.  The citizens of California didn't. 

[trekgeezer]

Poo on you all.  I like T4.   

I'm with Akira on this, I like the movie and don't really care who doesn't.

[WilliamWeird1313]

Poo on you all.  I like T4.   

I'm with Akira on this, I like the movie and don't really care who doesn't.

The pope has officially announced he disliked T4.

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Joke.

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Okay, I'll go back in my cage. ::sigh::

[Psycho Circus]

...And I don't care who likes it. 

[Doggett]

I watched it for free...and I still feel cheated 

[Captain]

Wow.  You posters' thinking seems really linear.  

There are likely multiple scenarios wherein Skyenet will come to be.  We've witnessed one (or two).  What we've seen involved sending things or people from the future to create one of the scenarios that lead to Skyenet's existence.  It is reasonable to assume that they have now calculated the probabilities of various other scenarios.  There do, however, seem to be a few focal points in most of the probabilities.  Kyle, John, Sarah, Cyberdyne, etc.

The time travel rules haven't been violated beyond reasonability.  Yet.  But the franchise's linear contintuity is beginning to unravel as badly as Lost.  However, if you accept the concept of time travel, you must give up linear thinking.  All we can hope for now is a film with a better script and the soap opera acting that Terminator Salvation gave us.

[Jim H]

Wow.  You posters' thinking seems really linear.  

There are likely multiple scenarios wherein Skyenet will come to be.  We've witnessed one (or two).  What we've seen involved sending things or people from the future to create one of the scenarios that lead to Skyenet's existence.  It is reasonable to assume that they have now calculated the probabilities of various other scenarios.  There do, however, seem to be a few focal points in most of the probabilities.  Kyle, John, Sarah, Cyberdyne, etc.

The time travel rules haven't been violated beyond reasonability.  Yet.  But the franchise's linear contintuity is beginning to unravel as badly as Lost.  However, if you accept the concept of time travel, you must give up linear thinking.  All we can hope for now is a film with a better script and the soap opera acting that Terminator Salvation gave us.

I just have one final addendum when talking about timelines, time travel and plausibility: I find it a little strange people can accept a time paradox like the existence of John Connor but can't accept the paradox of a time loop closing (the intended conclusion of Terminator 2).

[Mr. DS]

Drudging this topic up because I just watched the film.  Seeing I have thought just about every scenario brought up in this thread regarding time travel until the point of my head exploding, I decided to go into this endeavor by putting those thoughts aside.  I ended up with a movie that was enjoyable yet forgetable.  At times the direction seriously had no clue what the central focus should be.  I understand there were multiple characters but for me, the film jumped around too much between those characters.  The T-800 battle was nostalgic and fun but the CG was just awful looking.  Overall, not a bad reboot but like I said, I probably wont' be back. 

[indianasmith]

It was OK to me.  Better than some, worse than others in the series.  Loved the fight with the "Arnold" T model.  Honestly, this wasn't a series I was crazy about, so I can enjoy it without getting too worked up one way or another.

[Flick James]

Whatever, I'm not going to give anybody a hard time over movie preferences. I liked it. Good popcorn flick. I do find it interesting that people are arguing plausability about time travel, the plausability of which is arguable to begin with. You'd be better off arguing plausability in regards to film depictions of black holes, that's at least something we're reasonably sure exists.