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Survival of the Dead (2010)

Started by Vik, May 29, 2010, 09:27:52 AM

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Jim H

Quote from: indianasmith on September 15, 2010, 06:52:32 AM
I guess I'm in the minority, but I thought DIARY OF THE DEAD was a totally superior film to this one.

I didn't like Diary much at all, but I thought it was better made and better written.

Umaril The Unfeathered

Quote from: indianasmith on September 15, 2010, 06:52:32 AM
I guess I'm in the minority, but I thought DIARY OF THE DEAD was a totally superior film to this one.

Same here.  Survival only had one link to the entire Dead series, and that was
the fact that in the end, the one zombie sister had finally done something that was previously attempted in Day Of The Dead--she ate flesh other than human flesh (when she ate the horse.)  This is what the scientists had tried to achieve all along.

Other than that, I found the film to be more of the same old Romero ideology of the hero and the villian in post-apocalyptic America. It gets a bit thin.
Tam-Riel na nou Sancremath.
Dawn's Beauty is our shining home.

An varlais, nou bala, an kynd, nou latta.
The stars are our power, the sky is our light.

Malatu na nou karan.
Truth is our armor.

Malatu na bala
Truth is power.

Heca, Pellani! Agabaiyane Ehlnadaya!
Be gone, outsiders! I do not fear your mortal gods!

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Skull

Quote from: Jim H on June 16, 2010, 04:11:29 PM
 So zombies will eat animals as well.  So what?

I've thought a zombie ate a mouse (or rat) in Night of the Living Dead (1968).

Neville

I don't care if the undead eat at Wendy's. In the (cough) remake of "Day of the Dead" they had a vegan zombie, and that didn't make the movie any better.
Due to the horrifying nature of this film, no one will be admitted to the theatre.

Skull

Quote from: Neville on September 16, 2010, 09:01:19 AM
I don't care if the undead eat at Wendy's. In the (cough) remake of "Day of the Dead" they had a vegan zombie, and that didn't make the movie any better.

lol... after the original Day of the Dead I caution myself into watching any more of Romero's zombie films... (Yes, I dont like the original Day of the Dead movie)

When I heard the remake has a vegan zombie, my first thought was:



my second though was...



anyway I had a mental image another lovable zombie like Bub, becomming friends with the humans...


Jim H

Quote from: Skull on September 16, 2010, 06:51:44 AM
Quote from: Jim H on June 16, 2010, 04:11:29 PM
 So zombies will eat animals as well.  So what?

I've thought a zombie ate a mouse (or rat) in Night of the Living Dead (1968).

That was in the remake.  They originally made the point that zombies will only eat humans in, IIRC, Day of the Dead. 

Skull

Quote from: Jim H on September 16, 2010, 10:30:25 AM
Quote from: Skull on September 16, 2010, 06:51:44 AM
Quote from: Jim H on June 16, 2010, 04:11:29 PM
 So zombies will eat animals as well.  So what?

I've thought a zombie ate a mouse (or rat) in Night of the Living Dead (1968).

That was in the remake.  They originally made the point that zombies will only eat humans in, IIRC, Day of the Dead. 

I guess (it's been a long time since I've seen the films, I just recall a zombie sitting under a tree and snatching a mouse and eating it.)... either case the idea that the zombie will eat animals is very old... so eating a horse isnt shocking.

On the other hand I'm happy that Romero is still focused on zombie survival it makes my book a much better story (since it takes place 30 years after the invasion).

Umaril The Unfeathered

Quote from: Skull on September 16, 2010, 06:51:44 AM
Quote from: Jim H on June 16, 2010, 04:11:29 PM
 So zombies will eat animals as well.  So what?

I've thought a zombie ate a mouse (or rat) in Night of the Living Dead (1968).

In NOTLD 68' it was a bug on a tree.  The mouse was in NOTLD remake from 1990.

In the 1990 film, a more realistic attempt was made to depict the creatures as ones of some degree of reasoning, thus the way the zombie looked at and studied the mouse to see what it was before he ate it. I think it was more of the primal reaction of the ghouls. Or perhaps,  , this was an allusion to what would later happen in SOTD as all manner of flesh became fair game.  Just a thought.


Tam-Riel na nou Sancremath.
Dawn's Beauty is our shining home.

An varlais, nou bala, an kynd, nou latta.
The stars are our power, the sky is our light.

Malatu na nou karan.
Truth is our armor.

Malatu na bala
Truth is power.

Heca, Pellani! Agabaiyane Ehlnadaya!
Be gone, outsiders! I do not fear your mortal gods!

Auri-El na nou ata, ye A, Umaril, an Aran!
Aure-El is our father, and I, Umaril, the king!

Jim H

Quote from: Umaril The Unfeathered on September 16, 2010, 11:56:11 AM
Quote from: Skull on September 16, 2010, 06:51:44 AM
Quote from: Jim H on June 16, 2010, 04:11:29 PM
 So zombies will eat animals as well.  So what?

I've thought a zombie ate a mouse (or rat) in Night of the Living Dead (1968).

In NOTLD 68' it was a bug on a tree.  The mouse was in NOTLD remake from 1990.

In the 1990 film, a more realistic attempt was made to depict the creatures as ones of some degree of reasoning, thus the way the zombie looked at and studied the mouse to see what it was before he ate it. I think it was more of the primal reaction of the ghouls. Or perhaps,  , this was an allusion to what would later happen in SOTD as all manner of flesh became fair game.  Just a thought.

Didn't Romero say that Diary and Survival aren't in the same universe as the first four films?  I might be remembering wrong though...

Mr_Vindictive

Jim H,

You're correct.  Romero said he wanted to start out with a different vision of the zombie attack.  Diary and Survival are not in the same universe as the original films. 
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Umaril The Unfeathered

Quote from: Mr_Vindictive on September 17, 2010, 06:20:59 AM
Jim H,

You're correct.  Romero said he wanted to start out with a different vision of the zombie attack.  Diary and Survival are not in the same universe as the original films. 

What confuses people about Diary (imho anyhow) is the fact that the radio broadcasts seem to have that same "breaking news story" feel that the TV broadcast in NOTLD 68' had.  So to the untrained viewer, it seems as if it's the same timeline, and these kids are stuck in the woods at the same time the NOTLD crew were fighting for their own lives as the dead began rising all over the general U.S.
Tam-Riel na nou Sancremath.
Dawn's Beauty is our shining home.

An varlais, nou bala, an kynd, nou latta.
The stars are our power, the sky is our light.

Malatu na nou karan.
Truth is our armor.

Malatu na bala
Truth is power.

Heca, Pellani! Agabaiyane Ehlnadaya!
Be gone, outsiders! I do not fear your mortal gods!

Auri-El na nou ata, ye A, Umaril, an Aran!
Aure-El is our father, and I, Umaril, the king!

Mofo Rising

I'm pretty much in agreement with Jim H on this one. He's already nailed the major flaws I would have argued about, so I won't belabor the point.

Romero is justifiably the father of the modern zombie, and he followed NIGHT with the masterful DAWN. Unfortunately, the rest of his catalog is very erratic. BRUISER, for example, is an awful film.

SURVIVAL is just so half-hearted in many ways. Romero still wants to use his zombie films as social commentary, but his moral compass is reductionist at best. I got ya', feuds are bad. And?

I wouldn't savage the film. It's not like it's terrible, just not very good. If I had to guess, I'd say the reason Romero keeps going back to these zombie films is because they make money. Can't fault the guy for that, but these movies are a pretty far cry from vital horror movie canon.
Every dead body that is not exterminated becomes one of them. It gets up and kills. The people it kills, get up and kill.

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Umaril The Unfeathered

Quote from: Mofo Rising on September 26, 2010, 02:22:03 AM
I wouldn't savage the film. It's not like it's terrible, just not very good. If I had to guess, I'd say the reason Romero keeps going back to these zombie films is because they make money. Can't fault the guy for that, but these movies are a pretty far cry from vital horror movie canon.

Well, money is good, but sometimes you have to remember that you get what you pay for. As for me, I got to see it free on demand, so I spent nothing on it. 

Point being, it seems that be it movies (or game franchises) it seems that money is the object, and that quality makes a rare appearance in such endeavors these days.

As to vital horror movie canons, I don't really thing there are any today. many movies that wind up on Chiller or "syfy" are CGI garbage that gets thrown to the wall in hopes that it sticks.  With such "greatness" it seems the best days are ahead of us.......
Tam-Riel na nou Sancremath.
Dawn's Beauty is our shining home.

An varlais, nou bala, an kynd, nou latta.
The stars are our power, the sky is our light.

Malatu na nou karan.
Truth is our armor.

Malatu na bala
Truth is power.

Heca, Pellani! Agabaiyane Ehlnadaya!
Be gone, outsiders! I do not fear your mortal gods!

Auri-El na nou ata, ye A, Umaril, an Aran!
Aure-El is our father, and I, Umaril, the king!

Ash

#29
I couldn't sleep the other night and it was 5 am.
So I decided to watch Survival of the Dead streaming from Netflix..
I really enjoyed this movie!
It was much better than "Diary of the Dead".

I need to re-watch this again and count how many headshots there are.
There are tons of headshots!   :cheers: