Controversial TV series

[Newt]

IMO in principle, this discussion is just a continuation of the atheism thread.  Perhaps it is providing vukxfiles with some much-needed therapy; but I rather doubt it.

If you don't like it then get out of the thread and never come back. This thread is about controversial shows, and if you don't like the subject then don't discuss it.

  Hypocrite!

[AndyC]

If you don't like it then get out of the thread and never come back. This thread is about controversial shows, and if you don't like the subject then don't discuss it.

That just earned 30 days to cool off.

[Umaril The Unfeathered]

Hopefully parents won't rely on the media to raise their children. Right now, doing so inadvertently teaches kids that violence is an acceptable answer to many problems in life and that in order to be popular (if you're a girl) you pretty much need to dress like a slut or (if you're a guy) be an a***ole. Thankfully, most parents actually parent and don't let TV and the internet raise their kids.

Agreed.  However: parenting is only made all that much harder by having the media present and promote the images and models described above.  TV as it is now (I.E. censored at least during earlier hours to provide 'family' content)  presents a very persuasive picture of violence and sluttishness, among other things, as being the norm.  Now TRY to swim against that current as a parent: almost every thing you say is countered by the TV saying it is the way EVERYONE behaves or is expected to behave.  No matter how obviously untrue it is, the images portrayed are attractive and difficult to refute IF you are already having an uphill battle persuading a youngster that behaving in a respectable manner is to their own best interest.  And since lower standards are being called for here the solution to this is supposed to be the parent policing the TV more?  That'll work. 

That was a very well thought-out response, Newt. 

I'm gonna add a few more bars to the song, if I may:

The media vs. the parents.   The eternal battle for the hearts and minds of our kids.

Now TRY to swim against that current as a parent: almost every thing you say is countered by the TV saying it is the way EVERYONE behaves or is expected to behave.

The warnings on cable shows and movies: "adult content, adult humor, adult situations, ect" proves what you said above. Adults are expected to act that way in order to be "cool" or "funny." At least, for the sake of the movie, and not real life.

And the real-life part is what the media tends to "forget" to remind us of.

The media promotes toilet humored, self self-serving slobs who'll do anything for a good time, or they're busy pitying Hollywood actors and sports figures that get away with a slap on the wrist whenever they screw up.  OR the old "teen idol" thing.

What is this teaching our kids, that this is the real world? It may be for some, but not for all.  And that's where we as adults and parents have the duty to set the record straight, that this is NOT the real world.

But when you have the media and the fringe groups and the secular elements constantly running calculated interference and promoting the things they are, it's a virtual battle for the hearts and minds of our kids. 

You are the parent, not the Media, not Congress, not Hollywood,  you. And for my money, if the groups I mentioned above don't like it, they can go, well, you know.     Parents rule!

[Nightowl]

I like it when regular tv shows go off the wall and do an controversial episode. Roseanne:Crime and Punishment(5-13) & Family Matters:The Gun (6-16) are prime examples. I'd rather see a show be controversial every once in a while then doing it all the time.

[ghouck]

We can't talk about controversial shows without including "Arrested Development". On top of all the dysfunctional stuff that goes on in that family, the whole relationship between George-Michael and his cousin Maybe was pretty out there. There is always something going on, like Dad telling Maybe to sit on George Michael's lap in the car, while on a bumpy road, or his dad saying something like "I want you to rub off on her" and such. The part where Tobias is climbing into the top bunk and George Michael sees his balls is pretty out there. The Aunt accidentally coming on to the Nephew and all the retarded things Tobias says are just F-ing out there.

Great show though.

[ghouck]

I like it when regular tv shows go off the wall and do an controversial episode. Roseanne:Crime and Punishment(5-13) & Family Matters:The Gun (6-16) are prime examples. I'd rather see a show be controversial every once in a while then doing it all the time.

I loved the episode of Rosanne where the boy had just discovered masturbation. The girl says "He's been in the bathroom for almost two hours, which means he's either really really GOOD at it, or really really BAD at it"