Bad/Trashy but Entertaining: I need suggestions for my upcoming bad movie fest

[Vermin Boy]

FANTASY MISSION FORCE. Amazingly weird Hong Kong-made World War II movie; Abraham Lincoln is kidnapped in Canada by muscle-car-driving Nazis, so a crack team (including a hobo, a Chinese Scotsman, a greaser, and a woman with a bazooka) is assembled to find him. The group then meets amazons, vampires, and a pre-stardom Jackie Chan. In World War II. Seriously.

[raj]

That was a fun show, lots of bad movies.
Anyone remember the brunette who hosted before Rhonda?  My friend & I were bummed when she was replaced.

[spikesangel]

there was a brunette before Rhonda?
i remember Gilbert Gottfried.
hey!  remember Commander USA's Groovy Movies?

..i'm Commander USA and i show Groovy Movies on Saturday...

[Scott]

Here is an idea for you . By bad/trashy I will take that by the generally known terms. 9 hours should be enough.

The House of Whipcord - Start off with this one
The Story of "O" - Calm things down with a sadistic tale
Emanuelle - Lighten up a bit
Bloodsucking Freaks - For something shocking
Vampyros Lesbos - For some good music
Orgy of the Dead - To send them home. If this dosn't work nothing will

Or anything by Jesse Franco or Jean Rollin

[raj]

Yes, and she was great.  Much better than Rhonda, she actually talked about the movies rather than using the segments to promote herself.

Gilbert Gottfried.  Yuck.  As annoying as Carrottop.  Speak normally.

Commander USA's Groovy Movies sounds vagually familiar.

[Dave: Blackeye15]

Maybe you could try the American "Guyver" movie if you want something trashy.

-the first rule of fat club-

[raj]

Just googled and found out who she is:  Caroline Schlitt
Also came across a new (to me) website:
http://www.tvtome.com
which " has over 1,400 complete guides covering almost all the current shows and many of your favorite classics. There's also an additional 2,700+ guides that are partially complete or under development."

I am so glad that 20 some years ago the military wanted to hook a few computers together.

[Feathertop]

I remember the Captain. Plus, if you're a fan of Movie Hosts you might like to know that Captain USA plus plenty of others are featured in Elena Watson's classic book TELEVISION HORROR MOVIE HOSTS. It's available at Mcfarlandpub.com.  It first came out in 1991 and covers the Movie Host phenomenon from the days of Vampira up to when it was published.  Note to hardcore MST3K fans: Sadly, despite the 1991 publishing date she somehow missed covering the show's early years. Puzzling, since she covered countless hosts who were only known locally along with some nationwide hosts. Hell, she even covered the lame Grampa Munster's period hosting bad movies on TBS way back when, yet she was oblivious to MST3K both as a local show on KTMA and for it's first few years on the network now called Comedy Central.  
Despite that disappointment she covers a lot of the Bad Movie Hosts who clearly had an influence on MST3K's style, from Ghoulardi, Stella, Svenghoulie, Dr. Madblood etc and even a brief mention of Texas 27 Film Vault, the one that MST3K most reminded me of.
Sorry, no Joe Bob Briggs in the book, either, despite the fact that he was hosting movies on Cinemax (or was it showtime?) back then.

[Feathertop]

Don't ask me why I accidentally referred to him as "Captain" USA twice in my preceding post. It was just an oversight from my gleeful hurry to once again share Elena Watson's TERRIFIC book with anyone who may not have heard about it yet. (Next to mentioning Paul Naschy's movies, mentioning Elena's book is my greatest obsession at various message boards. )

[Rob Phillips]

Replace Gymcrappa with the Story of Ricki and I'm on board!

Any of the Black Scorpion movies are fun too, especially the first with Joan Severance (hubba hubba).

:-)


Rob

[illcos]

did you ever catch the 'black scorpion' tv show?  what a pile of garbage that was!

'the story or riki' is a crowd pleaser - good selection.

[JohnL]

>i would like to recommend "Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama"

I should have known you'd like that movie... :)

[jmc]

Joe Bob Briggs hosted movies on The Movie Channel.  One of my favorite memories of my teenage years was tuning in to Joe Bob every Friday night.  

I can see why he might not be included in the horror movie host book, though.  All he usually did was introduce the movies, since they ran uninterrupted.  I think sometimes he would show up again at the end of the film.  

I can also understand the exclusion of MST3K--they weren't really hosts in the usual sense.  I wonder if the exclusion was personal--a lot of longtime horror/bad movie fans don't like MST3K because I guess they view it as mean-spirited toward the films and their makers.

[Feathertop]

Actually a staple of just about EVERY Bad Movie Host show I ever saw was a joking and irreverent attitude toward the bad films they showed. I consider MST3K to be the logical extension of all previous movie host shows since they took the concept to the next level by ridiculing  the movie even while it was playing and not just before and after commercial breaks like most other Bad Movie Hosts.
Watson's wonderful book details the various types of comedy sketches and sarcastic remarks the hosts would make about the turkeys they showed so MST3K would have fit perfectly into the theme of the book.  (At least it would have from 1988 to 1995, the period when I think it most resembled Bad Movie Shows of the past.)  
Please don't feel I'm being argumentative, I simply think this is an intriguing issue to discuss. I was wondering if you ever read Elena Watson's book or if you grew up watching any local Bad Movie Host yourself? It may be an age thing , since I'm 39 and everybody I know my age or older who liked MST3K all felt part of it's charm was the way it was a larger scale version of the Bad Movie Host shows we had watched over the years    .  Just for conversation's sake let me point out  some hosts that I think were "predecessors in spirit" of Mystery Science Theater 3000:
We can lump in the Vampira, Zacherle, Seymour, Ghoulardi, Dr. Morgus and many other types into a big category for pioneering some of the primary elements like various comedic bits regarding mock products and commercials (indeed, I think Joel Robinson found the PERFECT vehicle for his "prop comedy" in the Movie Host format in general and the Invention Exchange in particular). Many of those hosts also had underlings or assistants who would be used and abused the way Dr Forrester treated T.V.'s Frank and  they would ALL do sketches parodying scenes from the Bad Movie being shown.
Moving into more particular territory, SVENGOOLIE (Rich Koz) had a show from 1979 to 1986(and I got to see his show on various business trips)that was flat-out state of the art for Bad Movie Hosting and in addition to his sketches his SONGS and MUSICAL bits were virtually blow-by-blow forerunners of Mike Nelson's tuneful contributions to MST3K. Indeed, when Svengoolie went back on the air in the late 90's he reportedly received plenty of hate mail from Misties accusing him of ripping off "their" show, since they were too young to remember that MST3K itself owed a certain stylistic debt to the many Bad Movie shows that came before. (I'm not a convention hound myself, but I've heard that some of the makers of MST3K have admitted at conventions that Svengoolie influenced their show.)
DR MADBLOOD'S MOVIE would have sarcastic remarks appear in writing on-screen during the movie (like  the bits of information that appear in "Pop-Up Videos"), so I consider these "Pop-up Riffs" if you will, to be another step along the "evolutionary ladder" culminating in the Minnesota Folks' terrific show.
TEXAS 27 FILM VAULT in some ways played like a "pilot" for MST3K and since it was one of my favorites I regret that Elena did not devote more space to it in her book. I'm certainly not implying any stealing of ideas occurred, but I would be willing to bet that Joel Hodgson saw some episodes of this show while traveling around to clubs with his prop comedy act.  Randy and Richard, the hosts of T27FV wore jumpsuits and hardhats that were similar to Joel's outfit(although I grant you he only had  the hardhat on during the opening theme music) plus their Film Vault set was similar to the original Deep 13 layout. Their premise was that beneath every major city in the U.S. were huge Film Vaults in which bad and campy movies were stored to be shown on the various Bad Movie shows around the country(I MISS the days of local programming!) and as "Film Vault Technicians First Class" they would protect the films from rat-like creatures called "cellumites". This, of course, was just the framing format to justify the showing (and mocking) of the Bad Movies. This show even had a door-opening bit that was similar to the later one on MST3K.  
Anyway, I feel the final product of this ever-evolving format was Mystery Science Theater 3000, the ULTIMATE Bad Movie Host show.   I'm surprised a similar show hasn't taken to the airwaves yet, since from my understanding of the law on this there is no way to copyright a concept like sitting in front of a movie and ridiculing it. God knows there's an audience just WAITING for a show to fill the void left by the end of the Minnesota Folks' show.
Any opinions? Please remember, I'm not knocking MST3K so there's no need for anyone to respond with something like "You SUCK! MST3K ROOLZ!"
And by the way, I think anyone who loved the Minnesota show would enjoy Elena Watson's book.

[Feathertop]

Sorry, JMC, I meant the previous post was a reply to your comments about MST3K being excluded from Elena Watson's book.