Star Trek Nemesis, NOT so Great

[Great Sage]

I just rented “Star Trek Nemesis” and it was a horrible movie, to say the least.  First of all, the script does a poor job of moving the action, which is just as nonexistent.  

This seems to be a homage to Picard, as he is the only character getting stage time.  The rest of the crew act as back drop. Especially Commander Riker, who seems to carry a vague expression throughout the film and even after his wife, Deana Troy, is violated.  He seems to have nothing to do with this movie.  He eventually finds something to do â€" avenge his wife’s dignity.

We also run into the usual predicaments: someone takes over or steals the ship’s information from outside the bridge, the shields are fading, fading, but never gone and the reactor leaks.  Maybe it’s time someone outside the Star Trek genre direct a Trek movie?...

Surprisingly enough, Brent Spiner’s character, Data, is killed off...  Perhaps the Star Trek promoters felt Data was becoming too “human” to work with?  Whatever the case, we are left with the impression that he will be replaced with another android, who is also Brent Spiner (Data’s brother), but is less developed.  Maybe a star fleet movie is in store for the NEW Data?   Otherwise, the NEW Data will assume the role left by Wesley Crusher...

[SkullNinja]

Nemesis is intended to be the last of the TNG movies and you are correct, it wasn't very good. Too much of the road too often travelled. We wind up with another of Data's brothers (Yawn!) and another case of Picard's DNA being used by aliens. Couldn't we have possibly came up with something even a tad bit more original?

Worf is around for purely comic relief and why is he here anyway? Isn't he off being the Klingon diplomatic ambassador or something?. The rest of the cast doesn't really do much and what the hell is Wes Crusher doing at the wedding in a Starfleet dress uniform. Last time we checked, he quit Starfleet and went exploring the universe with the Traveller. And Admiral Janeway??? (I guess, at least it wasn't a 200 year old Archer from Enterprise). If they were really itching for a cameo, Lt. Nog would have been nice to have on board. What did Kathy do to garner such a promotion? Jean-Luc has been Captaining the fleets flagship for a decade and a half and is still Captain (Of course, they offered him the promotion at least once). At least Riker finally got off his ass and accepted one.

I think one of the reasons they killed off Data was the natural fact that Brent Spiner has aged and Data should really still look like he did in "Farpoint".

You got off easy with a rental, because I actually bought the DVD.

The Nosferatu-like Remans were interesting with their non-rotating world (probably such a species would inhabit on the twilight band circling the planet and not the dark side, but I'm being nitpicky). So, now it seems that ages ago, the ancient Romulans left Vulcan and plunked themselves down in a system that already had an advanced species living in it.

Who knows what the future has in store for Trek on the big screen.

[akiratubo]

It was better than Insurrection but that's damning with faint praise.

I just love Picard's sensitive reaction to Troi's rape:

Troi: Captain, I'm being repeatedly mind raped.  Please let me leave the ship.
Picard:  I need you.  You'll just have to deal with it.



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[raj]

SkullNinja wrote:

> You got off easy with a rental, because I actually bought the
> DVD.

I don't feel so bad for having seen it in the theater.  Gawd the wedding scene was painful.

[Ash]

I loved this one!

Then again I like ANYTHING Star Trek.

[Rob Phillips]

Can I need her next?

[AndyC]

The thing I found peculiar was that they suddenly decided that Picard was completely bald since his youth. Huh?

[Dunners]

thats because Patrick stewart has been bald since he was 19 :P

[Grumpy Guy]

C'mon, guys.  What did you expect?  It's STAR TREK for god's sake...

Don't get me wrong, I love Star Trek, but it's still Star Trek.

[Conrad]

I haven't seen this one, and after the cinematic swill that was "Insurrection", I don't intend to.  My wife, a major fan of Star Trek, went to see it and said it was bad - laughably bad.  Her critical assessment was that the film was "dead on it's arse" and had probably killed the Star Trek film franchise.  Given it's extremely sluggish box office, she may be right.

[AndyC]

Stewart maybe, but we've seen lots of young Picard flashbacks with hair. I recall Stewart even had a rug on in one.

[Neville]

A pity, because the Trekkies really deserve good moives, at least for their uncondicional support to the franchise. What went wrong with the STNG movies? The first one was dull and unespectacular, but they seemed to be on the right path with First contact. And from then everything went downhill. Personally, I found this last instalment totally wasted celluloid. It  was boring, repetitive, actors seemed to be out of batteries, lots of stupid things, and then, the only good idea, the Picard clone, was completely wasted. As somebody said up there, all seemed done before. And much better, I might add.

[KINGDINOSAUR]

I finally got around to renting this DVD tonight.  Where have all the entertaining movies gone?

I watched Star Trek: The Next Generation off and on for a few years.  Wasn't there all kinds of trouble with an android brother of Data's called "Lore"?  Why reconstruct the fragmented android and give him all of Data's memories?

The dune buggy scene made me think someone spliced in footage from MEGAFORCE.

It's not very comforting to know that wedding entertainment does not improve any during the next 500 years.

I remember, as a kid, wanting to see more realistic action and technology in science fiction movies.  I was wrong.  If the visuals are cheesy I can use my 'suspension of disbelief' much more easily.  If filmmakers insist that the visuals must be spectacular how about investing more time and money on a believable script?

Scott
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[Flangepart]

Harumph....
That dune buggy chase....Arrg!
Not only was it so flippin MEGAFORCE, but the idea of phasers being such limeted wepons! Its a continuious beam capable wepon! Fire and correct aim as you go! Its like walking a line of tracers onto a target with a gatling! I've seen it done by Spector gunships over Iraq!
Oh, wait....what would shorten the scene.....might even resault in our charcters getting offed in the first few seconds of the confrontation.....
realy...what was i thinking?.....

[FearlessFreep]

Data has more unknown relatives, it seems, then Dar from Beastmaster..