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The Casey Anthony trial: thoughts?

Started by Trevor, July 06, 2011, 04:27:06 AM

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Quote from: AndyC on July 19, 2011, 12:27:19 PM
Quote from: ghouck on July 19, 2011, 12:50:30 AM
Once the pictures of Caylee hit the news, they had no choice. It's an unfortunate truth that the people care more if the victim is adorable.

I'm reminded of how much mileage the tabloids got out of Jonbenet, and for how many years. From what I see in the grocery checkout, that case still keeps popping up from time to time.

It's a good recycled item for the tabs when things are slow. I was flipping around channels and stopped for a few minutes on some show about child beauty pageants. I don't care how anybody might endeavor to explain it to me, that world is just very, very creepy to me.
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Quote from: Flick James on July 19, 2011, 01:27:08 PM
Quote from: AndyC on July 19, 2011, 12:27:19 PM
Quote from: ghouck on July 19, 2011, 12:50:30 AM
Once the pictures of Caylee hit the news, they had no choice. It's an unfortunate truth that the people care more if the victim is adorable.

I'm reminded of how much mileage the tabloids got out of Jonbenet, and for how many years. From what I see in the grocery checkout, that case still keeps popping up from time to time.

It's a good recycled item for the tabs when things are slow. I was flipping around channels and stopped for a few minutes on some show about child beauty pageants. I don't care how anybody might endeavor to explain it to me, that world is just very, very creepy to me.


WAAAY creepy. One has to wonder how many of those kids end up REALLY screwed up from placing so much of their self worth on their looks. Not all cute kids turn out to be attractive adolescents or adults. 
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Quote from: The DarkSider on July 06, 2011, 06:40:26 AM
As mentioned in the the "random thoughts" thread, if she wasn't white and somewhat attractive no one would hardly care sadly.

Quote from: Umaril The Unfeathered on July 08, 2011, 08:38:43 PM
Hmm.."white and somewhat attractive".  We knew race would enter this sooner or later.

With all due respect to this statement, I guess being "black and somewhat attractive" worked for O.J. though. Oh, and being a former NFL superstar helped, as well as the usual loud minority who saw any effort to prosecute him as racism. 

Not to mention those now who see his current jail time for his criminal follies as as "revenge" for his first escape from justice.

All I can say about this trial, opinions on race aside, is that we tend to forget one big thing when it comes to cases like this, and that is, that "not guilty" does NOT come to mean "innocent."  Let's just leave it at that...



Quote from: The DarkSider on July 09, 2011, 09:37:56 PMI'm confused, should I form a rebuttal to this statement or are you somewhat agreeing with me. 

Hi, sorry for being away so long, had some serious stuff on my plate, but I'm back, so what I meant was this: 

To answer your question:

I'm not agreeing with you about the "noone would care if she wasn't white and attractive" thing, because there are people who do care about justice, despite race and looks.

It's just like anything of this nature, that the loudest mouthpieces take center stage and wind up turning it into something other than it really is, as they mold and shape the anger of the disenfranchised to their desired effect.

And in the case of this trial, (and others to come) I'm sure there will be many many people who will feel that justice was cheated,  just like there are those who would have potentially make Casey to be a victim based on her sex and race, were she convicted.

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QuoteI'm not agreeing with you about the "noone would care if she wasn't white and attractive" thing, because there are people who do care about justice, despite race and looks.
I was referring to the media explosion surrounding this case.  I'm sure you'll read about someone killing their kids if you do a news search.   Do we hear about it as national news, hardly ever.  My comment was made because there are many more kids being killed sadly by sicko parents out there.  Probably because these parents had no clue what they were getting into.  Seems like a real seriously ignored issue if you ask me.

However, the media had no problem jumping on this one because the mother happened to be an attractive party girl.  Hence the photos of her in skimpy outfits circling the news dry hump dancing with boys. It just seems the wrong reason to make this case a national media frenzy.  The sad part is, that poor little girl is still dead and sadly she isn't the only one who was born to an evil parent.  
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QuoteI'm not agreeing with you about the "noone would care if she wasn't white and attractive" thing, because there are people who do care about justice, despite race and looks.


Quote from: The DarkSider on July 21, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
I was referring to the media explosion surrounding this case.  I'm sure you'll read about someone killing their kids if you do a news search.   Do we hear about it as national news, hardly ever.  My comment was made because there are many more kids being killed sadly by sicko parents out there.  Probably because these parents had no clue what they were getting into.  Seems like a real seriously ignored issue if you ask me.

I gotcha', totally understood.

It's just that when race, status and looks are involved, they can also be used to condemn someone as well as to elevate them to the ghoulish rank of folk hero, as the media had done with OJ Simpson many years before. That's where I was coming from.

But yes, I DO remember such cases as Andrea Yates, Eva Flores and a few others where children were murdered by their parents. I can't understand why, either.  :bluesad:


Quote from: The DarkSider on July 21, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
However, the media had no problem jumping on this one because the mother happened to be an attractive party girl.  Hence the photos of her in skimpy outfits circling the news dry hump dancing with boys. It just seems the wrong reason to make this case a national media frenzy.  The sad part is, that poor little girl is still dead and sadly she isn't the only one who was born to an evil parent.  

Totally agree with your assessment of the media's actions here.

However, whatever the reason the media did this, (as if it's a big mystery to begin with)
it DID play out well in a way, because it highlighted the fact that Casey was totally unphased and unaffected by the "disappearance" of her daughter.

What father (or mother) would be out acting like this at a time when their kids were missing?  Seems a bit odd to be that happy at such a bad time...

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Malatu na nou karan.
Truth is our armor.

Malatu na bala
Truth is power.

Heca, Pellani! Agabaiyane Ehlnadaya!
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