It's Made from People!

[AndyC]

An earlier post made me think of this. If you look at Soylent Green from a slightly different perspective, the ending takes on a whole new meaning, with Heston as the bad guy. I mean, we're all supposed to go with our gut reaction, and simply be horrified at the idea of cannibalism being forced on people without their knowledge. However, the world is overpopulated, agriculture is more or less dead, the oceans are dead, and normal food sources are virtually non-existant. The one thing there is a lot of is people. In such an extreme situation, would it be practical to simply bury or incinerate the dead? No. In fact, it would be wasteful. The government is at least processing them into something reasonably palatable, and people are fortunate to have no idea what they're eating and no idea what is happening to their loved ones. Heston, in the end, is interfering with the only thing keeping the population alive.

Anyway, what are some examples of heroes who, in spite of taking the moral high ground, are actually causing a lot of trouble, when you think about it? This should be easy - the 70s and 90s are full of them.

[Grumpy Guy]

Man's Best Friend.  Serious "Designated Hero Syndrome" there.

The Lethal Weapon series.  I love the first one - one of my all time favories - but Rigs and Murtaugh cause SO MUCH DAMAGE that they would be out of a job in a heartbeat.

Okay, sure, my examples are no where near as good as yours, but, hey, this is me.

[Damien01]

Sure I could go with that... but it still dosent explain the 150 dollar Stawberries, or the meat in the freezer... The Shower, or even Heston's character is taking items from the dead man.

There is food out there, and in Soylent Green, only the rich gets the real food, and the poor gets to eat themselves...

[The Burgomaster]

How about ALIEN and ALIENS? Ripley does everything in her power to destroy what could be one of the most fascinating scientific discoveries of all time.

[Grumpy Guy]

The Burgomaster wrote:

> How about ALIEN and ALIENS? Ripley does everything in her power
> to destroy what could be one of the most fascinating scientific
> discoveries of all time.]

Because they were trying to kill her.  I don't think she overreacted, really.

[AndyC]

It's reasonable to think that somebody would have a few plants somewhere. A cow would be a little more difficult to believe. I wouldn't want to think of the price of beef. But, if the strawberries cost $150 (thirty years ago that was even more impressive), it's because there aren't enough to provide more than a treat for a handful of rich people. The demand has greatly exceeded the supply of real food. Even if everything is rationed equally, people are going to starve without soylent green.

[Chadzilla]

How about The Omen trilogy.  Again and again characters are trying to kill the Anti-Christ, which the Bible clearly states will be kicked off the Big Blue Marble by Christ/God himself.  Who are these people really fighting?

[Fearless Freep]

I agree with "Lethal Weapon"  Joe Pesci's character was a bit of a dweeb, but they were down right vicious to him.

Agree with the "Designated Hero" status in "Man's Best Friend"  Similar in nature is Peter Benchley's "The Beast"

[Grumpy Guy]

It's amazing what you can get away with if you're the hero.  

Everything that happened in Jurassic Park is John Hammond's fault.  Think he got any jail time?

[The Burgomaster]

Grumpy Guy wrote:

"The Burgomaster wrote:

> How about ALIEN and ALIENS? Ripley does everything in her power
> to destroy what could be one of the most fascinating scientific
> discoveries of all time.]

Because they were trying to kill her. I don't think she overreacted, really."

I agree that she did not overreact. However, she did place her own pitiful, meaningless existence ahead of the greater good of scientific advancement that could have benefited all of humanity. (That selfish imbecile!)

[Flangepart]

Humm...nice upgrade on the sacasim module, Burgomaster. I like it.
Does the Soylent Green context mean people would be graded just like beef? What would be the gradeing marks? IA for Arnold S. and J. Lo, and 3D for Carrot Top and Seth Green?
True, there ain't much the population could do about the situation.. Guess life at the dinner table would consist of "Eat your Soylent Green! Don't you know people are starving in Europe who would love to have the food....oh, never mind. It IS the people in Europe!"

[Funk, E.]

James Bond. If he wasn't working for the good guys he's be a philandering homocidal sociopath.

[Paquita]

I always thought that in Nightmare on Elmstreet 4 that if Kristen had just let Freddy kill her right from the beginning no one else in that movie would have died!  She pulled Kinkaid and Joey into her dream so they died.. they would have been okay if it weren't for her ho ass! Then when Kristen finally decided to die she pulls Alice in and gives her her stupid dream powers so Alice can make everyone else die!! That was the worst! Alice and Kristen were the villains in that movie! Freddy was just doing what came natural! and he sucked face with that cute girl with the big boobs and that made him MY hero!

As for eating people!  I think would do it! yep! If people were raised on farms for slaughter like cows and made into tasty people-steaks and people-burgers I'd eat them! OKay, maybe raised on happy farms and die of natural causes and then be made into tasty people-meats!  It would be easier if I didn't know it was people though.  Maybe I'd change my mind if they actually did it.  I think that in Soylent Green they should have had people farms!  It would have been far more gruesome and much more appealing than people wafers!  They could have had big people-meat feasts and everyone would have been happy to eat real food! and people could have donated their bodies to people-meat factories when they died!  
See?! NOW they can remake Soylent Green because my version IS better!

love colleen

[Apostic]

> How about ALIEN and ALIENS? Ripley does everything in her power
> to destroy what could be one of the most fascinating scientific
> discoveries of all time.]

"Because they were trying to kill her. I don't think she overreacted, really."

"I agree that she did not overreact. However, she did place her own pitiful, meaningless existence ahead of the greater good of scientific advancement that could have benefited all of humanity. (That selfish imbecile!)"

Lately the line "They can BILL me!" has haunted me....

regards,

Apostic

[J Perk]

In Re-Animator Dan Cain wound up getting a lot of innocent people killed.  Okay maybe not a lot but still by helping West (and convincing himself that it was to save lives) he got the dean and his fiance killed.

Also in Terror Firmer some guy (noone really cares who he is) extinguishes the killer when he/she/it was on fire (safety to people)and thus gets Jerry stabbed in the head and I think Moose get stabbed too.

 In Story of Ricky Ricky is all messed up .  He almost kills a guy and then cries about his family for cripes sake.  However the last thing he does is let all of the prisoners out of jail.  Now I know that they were treated badly by the warden but they were in jail for a reason.