Dr. Who premiere

[WilliamWeird1313]

What an episode (s6:e2) !

I'm surprised the internet hasn't just melted because of all the nerds now talking about !

My BRAIN has been melting. I thought it was great, especially the final moment. I've always liked when shows really heavily developed season-long story arcs, and this season of Doctor Who looks to be doing that much more so than the previous ones of the modern series.

[Doggett]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8-uwMFSb10


Spoilers... 

I do love the pub analogy.

[AndyC]

It would appear the Mondas Cybermen are back. The ones at the beginning of the last episode didn't have the Cybus logo, and they're apparently back to being a spacefaring empire. I don't know. Maybe those were Cybus Cybermen of the future, or maybe the originals weren't extinct after all, perhaps as a result of rebooting the universe. Anyway, I hope to see more of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I-efBSAUiY&feature=related

[WilliamWeird1313]

It would appear the Mondas Cybermen are back. The ones at the beginning of the last episode didn't have the Cybus logo, and they're apparently back to being a spacefaring empire. I don't know. Maybe those were Cybus Cybermen of the future, or maybe the originals weren't extinct after all, perhaps as a result of rebooting the universe. Anyway, I hope to see more of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I-efBSAUiY&feature=related

As would I. I feel kind of disappointed in how little the Cybermen have been used. I mean, with the exception of the story where the parallel universe Cybers were introduced they haven't really received a whole lot of quality playtime. Sure, they appeared in the finale for season 2, but they definitely played second fiddle to the Daleks, and their subsequent appearances have, to me at least, kind of played them off as second-stringers, whereas I think they're right up there on the A-list as Whoniverse villains. Moffat has given them even less play, relegating to this little cameo (which I hope is a hint of more Cybery good things to come). and the brief (but EXTREMELY memorable) appearance of that one damaged, falling apart, uber-creepy Cyber that attacks Amy in the finale of last season.

On the subject of the mid-season finale, what did ya'll think?

[AndyC]

Finally here. Looks pretty good so far.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Zw1QDpg9g

[66Crush]

I liked it, although the stuff about River being Amy's friend growing up before regenerating, seemed a bit too cluttered. I felt it almost jumped the shark. I wished there had been more stuff about The Doctor battling Hitler. I feel a bit mislead. But, the story itself was really good and I liked how it was resolved in the end. Even with those two minor complaints, I'd still give it four and a half stars.

[AndyC]

(SPOILERS)

Still, there's something really funny about throwing in Hitler as a minor comic-relief character who gets locked in a closet for most of the episode.

[Doggett]

I missed the older Amy.

I wish they kept her and not the young one. That would've been intresting.

[Newt]

I missed the older Amy.

I wish they kept her and not the young one. That would've been intresting.

'Older Amy' was my kind of gal.  It'd be cool if they could let us see hints of her in the younger Amy from time to time.  She certainly makes it clear where River got some of her abilities!

[AndyC]

A simple yet very powerful episode.

Considering Rory sat around for a couple of Millennia waiting for Amy to get out of the Pandorica, I thought "Older Amy" was a little bit petty complaining about 36 years. Mind you, she spent the whole time fighting off helpful robots that were trying to kill her, and she'd gone a little bit crazy. And she did make the right choice in the end.

Having Amy's older self along for a couple of episodes would have made for some interesting adventures though, especially teamed up with River as a middle-aged mother-daughter wrecking crew. I could also imagine Older Amy being a little bit like Leela - quick to violence and always having to be reined in by the Doctor when she overreacts.

But, the whole point of the episode was making the tough choice of sacrificing one Amy to save another. And there seems to be an ongoing theme of this Doctor being something of a liar when he deems it necessary, not to mention his guilt over the price his companions have paid for traveling with him. Maybe the paradox was too much for the TARDIS to bear, but maybe it was also that the Doctor couldn't bear the existence of this violent, lonely, tormented Amy created by his own irresponsibility.