Reporter undergoes ‘unnecessary’ transvaginal ultrasound toframe abortion debate

[Flick James]

I'm not an engish major

Neither am I, nor would I imagine that there are a wealth of them on the boards. However, I'm confused. Do you mean that you are not an English major in the college degree sense, or that you are not a Major in the English Army?

[Frank81]

I'm not an engish major

Neither am I, nor would I imagine that there are a wealth of them on the boards. However, I'm confused. Do you mean that you are not an English major in the college degree sense, or that you are not a Major in the English Army?

Both.

[tracy]

Personally, I believe with our founders that the first duty of government is to defend the lives, liberty, and property of its citizens.  That includes unborn life. 

Shouldn't the US get rid of the death penalty then. 

Im not very good at this baiting thing...

That's a bit of irony there,my friend....I am very much against abortion but for the Death Penalty. As Frank pointed out,one is innocent life and one has been convicted for a crime and sits on death row. I've had a number of folks call me a hypocrit for this particular stance but I must politely disagree.

[Allhallowsday]

So, it becomes a futile exercise of everyone preaching to the choir and making the same arguments over and over again.

This thread has become futile, and played out. Even I know that.

Flick, you surprise me, you didn't think the abortion debate would be  solved  on a  thread  on a badmovies message board?  It will never  be solved  because their  is no solution like the majority of  human problems they fester, huge war eradicates  populace and/or disease, rinse/repeat.

Your commentary is very often negative and disturbing.  Or violent.  And the word is "there" not "their".  

Wlell, we live  in a disturbing world, btw, your spell check is annoying, but, thanks, THERE is  always one on these message boards, makes them feel superior.  I'm not an engish major, but, the 'Or Violent', doesn't sound like a complete sentence?   I do apologize for not being more entertaining for  you, but, I am not violent, I point out violence and how it will beget more violence. But, I have never killed anyone, not that they didn't deserve it.

One therefore would be "him" not "them".     "Or violent" would be an ejaculation and not subject to the rules of a sentence.  And I never feel superior; but I will own annoying.   Y'see, you're trying to be clever.  I'm just trying to annoy you. 

[Frank81]

So, it becomes a futile exercise of everyone preaching to the choir and making the same arguments over and over again.

This thread has become futile, and played out. Even I know that.

Flick, you surprise me, you didn't think the abortion debate would be  solved  on a  thread  on a badmovies message board?  It will never  be solved  because their  is no solution like the majority of  human problems they fester, huge war eradicates  populace and/or disease, rinse/repeat.

Your commentary is very often negative and disturbing.  Or violent.  And the word is "there" not "their".  

Wlell, we live  in a disturbing world, btw, your spell check is annoying, but, thanks, THERE is  always one on these message boards, makes them feel superior.  I'm not an engish major, but, the 'Or Violent', doesn't sound like a complete sentence?   I do apologize for not being more entertaining for  you, but, I am not violent, I point out violence and how it will beget more violence. But, I have never killed anyone, not that they didn't deserve it.

One therefore would be "him" not "them".     "Or violent" would be an ejaculation and not subject to the rules of a sentence.  And I never feel superior; but I will own annoying.   Y'see, you're trying to be clever.  I'm just trying to annoy you. 

I thought you were speaking from a group home.   Please, no ejaculations  before dinner.

[indianasmith]

If I may make one point, in response to what Doggett raised earlier (and stepping over most of the posts since . . .)

My opposition to abortion and my belief in the inherent justice of the death penalty are BOTH rooted in my firm belief in the sanctity of human life.  I realize that may sound absurd on the face of it, so I'll try to explain:

Almost any property can be replaced.  Houses can be rebuilt, gadgets can be repurchased, even my artifact collection that I have spent 35 years finding - if it was stolen tonight, I'd start a new collection tomorrow.
But a human life is irreplaceable.  So for one who wantonly, cruelly takes human lives for no purpose other than their own amusement can only atone for the irreplaceable lives taken by yielding their own in return.  It is the oldest and most universal principle of human jurisprudence.

I do recognize that their are problems and inequities in the way American administers the death penalty (sometimes). I would like to see these issues properly addressed.  But for the most heinous of criminals - for the Gacys and Bundys and bin Ladens of the world - the death penalty remains a balanced and symmetrical act of justice that is the only true atonement for the evil they have done.

In my humble (but correct) opinion, that is.

[Allhallowsday]

...I thought you were speaking from a group home.   Please, no ejaculations  before dinner.

I knew you'd like it if I used the word "ejaculation". 

[Doggett]

Personally, I believe with our founders that the first duty of government is to defend the lives, liberty, and property of its citizens.  That includes unborn life. 

Shouldn't the US get rid of the death penalty then. 

Im not very good at this baiting thing...

That's a bit of irony there,my friend....I am very much against abortion but for the Death Penalty. As Frank pointed out,one is innocent life and one has been convicted for a crime and sits on death row. I've had a number of folks call me a hypocrit for this particular stance but I must politely disagree.

Of course, unless that criminal is a zombie, the person is very much a living human.
Its seems strange that to show people that killing is wrong, the punishment is to kill them.

Oh, the irony...

But a human life is irreplaceable.  So for one who wantonly, cruelly takes human lives for no purpose other than their own amusement can only atone for the irreplaceable lives taken by yielding their own in return.  It is the oldest and most universal principle of human jurisprudence.

All human life is irreplaceable.
Even the nasty ones. I can understand wanting someone dead but when you've caught them and locked them up and they're no longer a danger to society. Why kill?


An eye for an eye isn't really a principle. It just makes us all blind.

That person on death row is still a child to someone. Im not saying like the criminal, or even forgive. Just lock them up and throw away the key.

Just an opinion.
Not on a soapbox or anything.

[indianasmith]

It's a legitimiate opinion shared by many - but I respectfully disagree.
A monster like Gacy, who can never be rehabilitated, needs to be put down.

[Frank81]

...I thought you were speaking from a group home.   Please, no ejaculations  before dinner.

I knew you'd like it if I used the word "ejaculation". 

It just seems  to fit the answers  I've  been getting to my posts.

[tracy]

It's a legitimiate opinion shared by many - but I respectfully disagree.
A monster like Gacy, who can never be rehabilitated, needs to be put down.

My thoughts exactly.

[alandhopewell]

It's a legitimiate opinion shared by many - but I respectfully disagree.
A monster like Gacy, who can never be rehabilitated, needs to be put down.

My thoughts exactly.

      The Bible says that where innocent blood is shed (murder) then blood is called for.

[Flick James]

So it's turned into a debate about capital punishment now?

[Flick James]

As much as I love the ability to have these discussions, and as many stimulating ones I have had with the likes of Indy, I'm beginning to see Andrew's point.

[Doggett]

So it's turned into a debate about capital punishment now?

My fault...

And the bible say a lot of things.

I'm pretty sure the only rules meant for man that came from God were the ten commandments. Thou shall not kill. There were no exceptions to it. God didn't write a PS saying its okay to kill if they're really rotten. I know the bible is full of stories and ideas how man should live so I'm cutting to the chase a bit and saying when all is said and done, really only Gods law is important and as a Christian, I can't see kling as an answer. Only forgiveness.



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