This question I bet NONE of you can answer.

[WyreWizard]

Any of you remember a film call Johnny Got His Gun?  This film that was based on a novel by Dalton Thrombo the Government tried to censor because they feared it would severely lower military drafts.
Well this film revolved around a guy who after being hit with a howitzer, lost his limbs and face.  He had to live his life (if you call that a life) in a military hospital wearing a mask to cover his horrible disfigurement.  Only getting nourishment though tube feeding.

Now I can't imagine anyone being forced to live that way.  This guy was not able to enjoy life by any stretch of the imagination.  The decent thing the hospital could do was let him die.  But they didn't.  By their twisted reasoning, they were forcing him to live.

Now I know this is based on any real event.  And I have never read anything about anybody being forced to live this way.

But here is the question.  Do any of you know beyond a shadow of a doubt how modern medicine treats patients like these?  I've tried to ask medical professionals, but they are either uncomfortable answering the question, won't answer the question or just evade it.
Good luck answering it.

[zombie no.one]

[Menard]

A long response zombie #1, but I don't get the point, and WyreDick...the answer is simply a society and government still attached at the hip to archaic religious ideals of it is more godly to let someone suffer than to end their suffering...as suffering is part of their penance for being human. 

[Olivia Bauer]

Zombie, please don't ever do that.

[WyreWizard]

A long response zombie #1, but I don't get the point, and WyreDick...the answer is simply a society and government still attached at the hip to archaic religious ideals of it is more godly to let someone suffer than to end their suffering...as suffering is part of their penance for being human. 

Menard, are you talking old societies and old ways of thinking?  Because I have noticed over the years that government and modern medicine have did things that try to LIMIT human suffering.  Governments try to limit human suffering by toppling dictatorships like the Taliban, Saddam Hussein and many others.  Modern medicine limits human suffering with the use of pain relievers, pain suppressors, anesthetics, sedatives and symptom blocking drugs.

Very interesting answer, Menard, TYVM.  You make a very good debater.

[zombie no.one]

Zombie, please don't ever do that.

sorry dude. I've been sent sideways by an overdose of WyreWizard. Future transmissions may be sketchy. Pray for me.

[Rev. Powell]

I would assume that doctors would treat Johnny the same way they would treat a patient in an irreversible coma---i.e. if he had no living will his next of kin would decide whether to take extraordinary measures to keep him alive with no hope of recovery. I think WW actually poses a slightly interesting question of medical ethics. I'll ask a doctor next time I see one. Maybe Zap will chime in.

If you don't want what happened to Johnny to happen to you, get a living will.

By the way, WW, your signature contains many reality flaws. For example, I have never been offered a choice between "phantom fears and kindness that can kill." Who would even offer me such a choice? "Some celestial voice"? "Celestial" means "from a star," and stars don't even have vocal cords to form a simple syllable! These kinds of reality flaws are the reason I hate 99.9% of modern lyrics.

[Menard]

Zombie #1

Could you edit that down to just one Gumby? That's a whole lot of scrolling to have to go through as it is.

[JayJayM12]

Zombie #1

Could you edit that down to just one Gumby? That's a whole lot of scrolling to have to go through as it is.

Is this thread worth scrolling through?

[Rev. Powell]

Zombie #1

Could you edit that down to just one Gumby? That's a whole lot of scrolling to have to go through as it is.

Is this thread worth scrolling through?

My post is great! 

[Menard]

Zombie #1

Could you edit that down to just one Gumby? That's a whole lot of scrolling to have to go through as it is.

Is this thread worth scrolling through?

I'd presume by your reply the answer to your own question is "no", but there are others on this board who would prefer to make that decision for themselves and not have it made for them...just sayin'.

[JayJayM12]

Zombie #1

Could you edit that down to just one Gumby? That's a whole lot of scrolling to have to go through as it is.

Is this thread worth scrolling through?

My post is great! 

Actually, yeah, that's true - I must admit that I hadn't read it yet when I asked that.  I saw it was a Wyre post and figured it was nonsense followed by people pointing out that it's nonsense.

[JayJayM12]

Zombie #1

Could you edit that down to just one Gumby? That's a whole lot of scrolling to have to go through as it is.

Is this thread worth scrolling through?

I'd presume by your reply the answer to your own question is "no", but there are others on this board who would prefer to make that decision for themselves and not have it made for them...just sayin'.

In fairness, I didn't make the decision for them - I asked the question, which then allows them to make that decision for themselves.  just sayin'...

[Menard]

Zombie #1

Could you edit that down to just one Gumby? That's a whole lot of scrolling to have to go through as it is.

Is this thread worth scrolling through?

I'd presume by your reply the answer to your own question is "no", but there are others on this board who would prefer to make that decision for themselves and not have it made for them...just sayin'.

In fairness, I didn't make the decision for them - I asked the question, which then allows them to make that decision for themselves.  just sayin'...

No, you did not make the decision, you just asked and I answered.

[JayJayM12]

Zombie #1

Could you edit that down to just one Gumby? That's a whole lot of scrolling to have to go through as it is.

Is this thread worth scrolling through?

I'd presume by your reply the answer to your own question is "no", but there are others on this board who would prefer to make that decision for themselves and not have it made for them...just sayin'.

In fairness, I didn't make the decision for them - I asked the question, which then allows them to make that decision for themselves.  just sayin'...

No, you did not make the decision, you just asked and I answered.

I suppose, but not really (mine was a pretty clear yes or no question).  Your reply certainly came across as accusing me of deciding for everyone that this thread was NOT worth scrolling through.  If I read it wrong, then so be it (but I don't think I did).