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Who should be the next president?

Started by RCMerchant, July 04, 2015, 07:17:30 AM

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lester1/2jr

You know, I'm actually somewhat sympathetic to that, except 2 years ago he wanted troops in Syria to fight Assad, who is himself fighting ISIS. In reality, graham is simply a mouthpiece for various lobbies and has no actual principles to speak of

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indianasmith

I don't think there are any good guys in Syria on either side.  Assad is loathsome and ISIS are no better than Nazis. The moderates, if there ever were any, have all either been killed or forced to join one of the extreme sides.
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lester1/2jr

I'll take Assad over ISIS. Those guys are the worst. When you make Al Queda look like a bunch of reasonable guys you know you are fully in Nazi/ Manson family territory. A unique historical evil

Allhallowsday

Trump wants money from Mideast countries supported by US 

http://news.yahoo.com/trump-wants-money-mideast-countries-supported-us-130027587.html 

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is outlining a foreign policy in which the United States would put ground troops in the fight against Islamic State militants and demand money from Middle East countries supported by the U.S.

In a wide-ranging interview that aired Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," the billionaire businessman and former reality TV star says he would consider shutting down the federal government over funding for Planned Parenthood. He says he isn't sure whether he has donated money to the organization in the past but adds that he would oppose providing federal funds if it continues providing abortion services.

Trump says he would ask nominees to the Supreme Court about their views on abortion and would take their views into consideration as he made a decision on whom to nominate. He says he opposes abortion except in case of rape, incest and to save the life of the mother.

Calling the nuclear agreement forged between Iran and world powers including the U.S. "a bad deal," Trump says that Iran will have nuclear weapons and take over parts of the world. "And I think it's going to lead to nuclear holocaust," he said. Instead of tearing up the deal, he said he would "police" it, and he called Secretary of State John Kerry "incompetent" for negotiating the agreement.

On defeating Islamic State militants, Trump said the key is to take away their wealth by taking back the oil fields under their control in Iraq. Told by "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd that such a move could require ground troops, Trump responded, "That's OK." He said the Iraqis should be given "something" from their oil fields but, in an apparent reference to Iraq War veterans, "we should definitely take back money for our soldiers."

"We've had soldiers that were so badly hurt and killed," he said. "I want their families to get something. Wounded warriors all over the place. They got nothing. And they can't even say we had a victory.

Trump in the past has accused Saudi Arabia of being the world's biggest funder of terrorism. On Sunday, he said the Gulf nation should be paying the U.S. because it wouldn't exist without American support. And, Trump said, the only reason the U.S. supports Saudi Arabia is because it needs the oil.

"Now, we don't need the oil so much," he said in an apparent reference to U.S. oil and gas production. "And if we let our people really go, we wouldn't need the oil at all. And we could let everybody else fight it out." 

http://news.yahoo.com/trump-wants-money-mideast-countries-supported-us-130027587.html
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lester1/2jr

I watched CSPAN coverage of the Iowa state fair today. The candidate that stood out for me was Lincoln Chafee of RI. He came off as reasonable, understated and just normal. In comparison all the other candidates, including Bernie Sanders, came off as cartoonish. Sanders was like a hardcore singer barking and pointing at the audience. It wasn't what I expected and I wasn't into it.

The other highlight was Hillary's mysterious, swank looking sidekick Huma Abedin. She's around my same age too hmm

indianasmith

I think Chaffee has about as much chance of getting elected as you or me.
Kind of like Gov. Gilmore on the Republican side.
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bob

I think we can all agree the country would be f**ked if Trump ended up winning somehow.
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Allhallowsday

Quote from: bob on August 16, 2015, 05:01:00 PM
I think we can all agree the country would be f**ked if Trump ended up winning somehow.
Maybe it'd be just great!!!  :teddyr: 

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lester1/2jr

#115
Indiana- I'm sure you're right.  it was substantive too though. He was a moderate Repub before and a dem now.

I like governors and low key sort of guys rather than pundit types. I feel like if, say, Chris Christie was elected he would know literally, actually HOW to do the job. Some of these other guys... I don't know

I would vote for Bush the elder in a heartbeat I don't care if he's 111



Allhallowsday

Quote from: lester1/2jr on August 16, 2015, 07:51:53 PM
...I like governors and low key sort of guys rather than pundit types. I feel like if, say, Chris Christie was elected he would know literally, actually HOW to do the job. Some of these other guys... I don't know...
Living here in NJ, I don't agree with you. 
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lester1/2jr

It wasn't an endorsement more figurative but I hear ya

indianasmith

I think Trump would be an effective dictator but a lousy President.

I am wishing for a Rubio/Fiorina ticket . . . I would volunteer for that campaign!!!!
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

bob

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