What will be the next big trend in horror movies?

[Eirik]

"Why is it that no matter the genre, american films do dumb it down?"

It just seems that way, Susan.  Why?  Because the only foreign movies we see here are the ones that are good and interesting and well done.  I'm sure France and Italy and Japan and wherever all make their fair share of crap...  that crap just never finds its way over here.  They probably assume (correctly in my judgement) that the only way Americans will tolerate subtitles/dubbing is if the movie is pretty good, or at least interesting.

It's kind of like asking why other peoples' kids are always better behaved than yours?  Answer: because you see yours 24/7 and tend to remember their worst moments.  You see other people's kids in controlled situations for very brief periods of time.

[Cricket21a]

How about karate fighting lesbian Vampires that have mutated so they can walk around in the daytime and they inslave the human population for their own amusement and for producing more blood for them.

More than likely there maybe some more space type of films, like Event Horizon

hmmmmm.........Space Lesbian Vampires.........Invading a planet near you

[raj]

Cool!  When is Space Lesbian Vampires coming out?

[Susan]

FearlessFreep wrote:

> Try being a musician and watching the pop music industry some
> time :)
>

True, it makes me sick that all singers and bands are just selling an "image". You don't see the ugly talent which for eons have really been the ones with the voice. Not saying that ugly folks can sing better, but let's get real..half the talent out there isn't talent, it's a generic voice with boobs and legs. Our american idol is a joke (The only redemption is the guy from norway who sounded like a combination of bono and crash test dummies who won..now that hobbit could sing!)

>>Because the only foreign movies we see here are the ones that are good and interesting and well done. I'm sure France and Italy and Japan and wherever all make their fair share of crap... that crap just never finds its way over here. <<

I wish it would, at least it would be fresh new crap. I used to live overseas, seeing an american film was a rare thing. I guess we don't see much of foriegn stuff because they can't take the $risk$ unless it's guaranteed to make money

>>vIt's kind of like asking why other peoples' kids are always better behaved than yours? Answer: because you see yours 24/7 and tend to remember their worst moments. You see other people's kids in controlled situations for very brief periods of time.<<

Holy crap have you been to a mcdonalds or walmart lately? Nobody's kids are behaved! I remember we never acted up in public, not for fear so much of a spanking but we were expected to behave. Plus we didn't want to embarass ourselves. I went to eat yesterday and the kids in there were so out of control, loud, running around and screaming they were ruining people's meals and driving them out. The mothers sat there and did nothing, when they finally did they just yelled and exacerbated the problem. That's another topic, but dont' get me started on "other people's kids" ;-)

[Genetic Mishap]

Yes- but on the other hand, a bad visceral oriented movie might still have entertainment value. A brainless, pretentious "mindf**k" movie made by someone with the mentality of an angsty, artsy-fartsy film school drop out would be unbearable.
Two cents- I've seen it happen. It ain't pretty.

[Eirik]

"Holy crap have you been to a mcdonalds or walmart lately?"

Actually, I haven't patronized either of those corporations in over ten years, but that's another thread.  When I'm in public, I generally tend to not notice other peoples' kids because I'm either busy taking care of my own or I have some sympathy in knowing how difficult they can be.  The only time I take notice really is when I hear kids talk s**t to their parents or other adults.  I heard a ten year old call his mother an idiot a few weeks ago and SHE f**king apologized for whatever it was he was mad about!!  That kind of thing drives me nuts.

[FearlessFreep]

A brainless, pretentious "mindf**k" movie made by someone with the mentality of an angsty, artsy-fartsy film school drop out would be unbearable

First thing that came to mind,,,"Nadja"

[AndyC]

Eirik wrote:
> I heard a ten year old call his mother an idiot a few
> weeks ago and SHE f**king apologized for whatever it was he was
> mad about!!  That kind of thing drives me nuts.

Man, I've never seen anything that bad. Just parents who either stand there and take it, or in the worst cases, actually have an argument with the kid. Remember the days when back talk was simply not tolerated.

The thing that really bugs me is the parents who don't follow through on threats. The best example of this was on a recent grocery shopping trip. The kid was being loud and whiny and pushy, so his mother grounded him. He then engaged in an even louder and more embarassing display of whining and begging. She asks him "well, are you going to behave?" Then she lifts the punishment. Altogether, about 30 seconds passed. What in the hell did that teach the kid? It just left me speechless.

[Cricket21a]

I don't think I've even heard of "Nadja" before.  Was it any good?

[Conrad]

I hope that's *Topless* Space Lesbian Vampires, otherwise it just won't have the necessary artistic integrity.

[ad]

"I hope that's *Topless* Space Lesbian Vampires, otherwise it just won't have the necessary artistic integrity."

For artistic integrity shouldn't it be "Russ Myer's Topless Space Lesbian Vampires"?

[FearlessFreep]

I don't think I've even heard of "Nadja" before. Was it any good?

I'm sure the filmaker(s) thought so.  It was very artsy and pretensious...and mind-numbingly dull. I think Nathan has a review of it at Cold Fusion but I'm too lazy to look it up

[Jayson]

Of course the next trend in Horror movies will be the "Reality" horror movie. I can see the premise now... 12 obnoxious people in thier 20's share a big house(ala Big brother) on a deserted island(ala Survivor) trying to make it in the music business(ala American Idol) when a disgruntled TV viewer who is sick of stupid reality shows starts killing them off each more brutal than the last.

[raj]

That part goes without saying.  Afterall, the only way to understand that they are lesbians is because they are topless together.

[Brother Ragnarok]

I see Hollywood churning out more piles of crap like Underworld that all the whiny angsty little bastards that play that Vampires LARP will just f**king love.  And some more really really really vomitous remakes like the hack job they did on TCM.
But while all that's going on, the TRUE horror fans like us will be ignoring that s**t because the floodgates have been opened by the likes of Rob Zombie and Eli Roth for true horror fans to make true horror movies, harkening back to the days (early 70's - mid 80's) when horror movies were at their peak.  Cabin Fever and House of 1000 Corpses (I know, not everyone likes that movie, but there will be others, and the sequel is gonna rule) were great throwback movies.  Sam Raimi is turning Steve Niles' amazing comic book series 30 Days of Night into a movie, and more to follow, including an Al Adamson-style satanic biker comic/movie called The Nail written by Niles and Zombie.
I'm kinda rambling, but my point is, it's been proven that good horror movies made by people who know what they're doing can make some money, so we're finally going to see some good stuff amidst the crap.

Brother R