The All-Purpose Political Thread

[RCMerchant]

Les- why you say Daffy is jerking off?  There's no proof he's jerking off. Maybe he's shaking a martini up.
It just looks like he's jerking off. Maybe he's trying to start a lawn mower!

[RCMerchant]

Outside Daffy Duck- I like the vet from West Virginia.

[lester1/2jr]

well, this was a fun experiment

[Leah]

So here's something that has been flowing through my mind: those who aren't pro choice, is it because of abortion? I saw a pic that said that not everyone who is pro choice would even consider abortion.

[Svengoolie 3]

[lester1/2jr]

from what I can tell, most people are against intervening in venezuela militarily or otherwise. At the same time, anyone who reads the paper or better yet talks to a South American person realizes Maduro, their president, really is a meatball and the country is headed for a long decline. Already Venezulans are pouring into neighboring countries which says a lot because these countries aren't doing particularly well either. anyone want to move to Columbia or Argentina for all the job opportunities?

I'd say what's going on there is much closer to the Arab Spring than the Iraq War. I'm not in favor of the US military getting involved but I feel some people are so anti America and also pro socialist that they are missing the big picture. If this current guy Guaido or whatever his name is doesn't win out Venezuela is going to stay in the same position they are in now and the whole thing is going to happen again next year. Maduro and his whole squad of Cuban advisors are hardline marxists living in the 1940's

[indianasmith]

Nice try.  Scripture clearly enunciates in Psalm 139 that life begins and is ordained BEFORE birth.
Secondly, my strongest objection to abortion is not Biblical or even Christian but CONSTITUTIONAL.
LIFE is the first inalienable right.  It is enunciated in the Declaration of Independence and it is clearly, specifically protected in the FIFTH and FOURTEENTH Amendments.  Life is the right that trumps (pardon the pun) all others, for without the right to life, all other rights are irrelevant.

So, the question turns on these two points - first, are the unborn alive?  That's a no-brainer.
Second, are they human?  While some might try to argue that their humanity doesn't begin until birth, the fact is that the human fetus develops its own DNA very early in the first trimester.  By any biological measure, a child in the womb is still a HUMAN child.
And to kill it is to end a human life.
It has nothing to do with keeping women barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen.  I am strong believer in contraception.  But I also believe that human life is too sacred to be thrown away on the altars of convenience, or feminism, or sexual liberty.

Even if there is some doubt about the answer to the two questions above, in the end, should not the government err on the side of life, rather than arbitrarily authorize what is, for all practical purposes, the extermination of an innocent human being?

I have read all the justifications and arguments for abortion, but in the end, none of the horrible wrongs that can lead to terminating a pregnancy are made one less whit wrong by killing a human being who never asked to be in that situation to begin with.

Where is the due process for the unborn?

[RCMerchant]

I'm anti-abortion. But I ain't gonna force my belief done someone's throat.

[Pacman000]

Remember, the Hebrew word for breath can also be translated as "spirit:" https://biblehub.com/hebrew/7307.htm

And, apparently, wrath or anger. O_o Did not know that last bit...

[Alex]

Very much depends on the circumstances for me. I don't believe that any woman who was raped, for example, should be forced to give birth or where it puts her life in danger going through with a pregnancy. I don't think it should be used as a form of birth control though.

I try not to judge anyone who does have a termination though. I am not in their shoes and can't imagine what it would be like to take such a decision.

[lester1/2jr]

the Didache, a very early Christian teaching document, explicitly prohibits abortion.

In my opinion, people who are young and single tend to be more pro choice and people who are older and married or want to have children tend to be pro life.

[Svengoolie 3]

Hosea 13:16.

16 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
    because they have rebelled against their God.
They will fall by the sword;
    their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
    their pregnant women ripped open."

[Pacman000]

So the Bible acknowledges the death of an unborn child is a terrible thing which should only happen to the vilest of offenders?

[Leah]

I'm mixed on abortion. I was unwilling put in a rough spot between a mentally ill recovering drug addict and an egotistical a***ole.

[Svengoolie 3]

So the Bible acknowledges the death of an unborn child is a terrible thing which should only happen to the vilest of offenders?
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How are unborn children offenders?