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Clockwork Orange on netflix?

Started by Svengoolie 3, March 22, 2019, 05:07:54 AM

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Svengoolie 3

I've  heard Kubirick's A clockwork orange is on netflix for a while now.

JOOC what do bad movies denizens think of this movie?


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FatFreddysCat

I like it.  Seen it quite a few times, though it's been years since my last viewing.
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Trevor

Like so many classics which gave the apartheid censors tummy trouble, this was banned and remained so for years.
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Rev. Powell

Love it. One of my favorites. Gave it a "must see" rating.
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Quote from: Trevor on March 22, 2019, 07:40:57 AM
Like so many classics which gave the apartheid censors tummy trouble, this was banned and remained so for years.

It was unavailable in Kubrick's native Britain for many years as well. He voluntarily pulled it from distribution there in 1973 after several supposed "copy cat" crimes were allegedly inspired by the film. It wasn't re-released there till after Kubrick died in 1999.
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316zombie

i hate it. curtis loves it. go figure. :cheers:

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i own it on blu-ray which is always better than Netflix i'm sorry i prefer owning it, i mean hell movies do leave netflix all the time and i can watch it anytime i want when i put in the disc. but to each their own who want to watch it streaming

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Svengoolie 3

You know, ACO fans might be interested to know the movie cut the last part of the book out.  The original novel had a final chapter in such Alex,  area years after the end of the movie, sees an old droog,  pete,    with a wife and child.  He realizes pete's life is actually far richer than his own in personal and emotional terms and decides to essentially stop indulging in his pointless violence,  try finding someone to love and becomes a better  person.



Alex wakes up in a hospital, where he is courted by government officials anxious to counter the bad publicity created by his suicide attempt. Placed in a mental institution, Alex is offered a well-paying job if he agrees to side with the government. A round of tests reveals that his old violent impulses have returned, indicating that the hospital doctors have undone the effects of his conditioning. As photographers snap pictures, Alex daydreams of orgiastic violence and reflects, "I was cured all right."

In the final chapter, Alex finds himself halfheartedly preparing for yet another night of crime with a new gang (Lenn, Rick, Bully). After a chance encounter with Pete, who has reformed and married, Alex finds himself taking less and less pleasure in acts of senseless violence. He begins contemplating giving up crime himself to become a productive member of society and start a family of his own, while reflecting on the notion that his own children could possibly end up being just as destructive as he has been, if not more so.
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Rev. Powell

Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on March 24, 2019, 09:16:13 PM
You know, ACO fans might be interested to know the movie cut the last part of the book out.  The original novel had a final chapter in such Alex,  area years after the end of the movie, sees an old droog,  pete,    with a wife and child.  He realizes pete's life is actually far richer than his own in personal and emotional terms and decides to essentially stop indulging in his pointless violence,  try finding someone to love and becomes a better  person.



Alex wakes up in a hospital, where he is courted by government officials anxious to counter the bad publicity created by his suicide attempt. Placed in a mental institution, Alex is offered a well-paying job if he agrees to side with the government. A round of tests reveals that his old violent impulses have returned, indicating that the hospital doctors have undone the effects of his conditioning. As photographers snap pictures, Alex daydreams of orgiastic violence and reflects, "I was cured all right."

In the final chapter, Alex finds himself halfheartedly preparing for yet another night of crime with a new gang (Lenn, Rick, Bully). After a chance encounter with Pete, who has reformed and married, Alex finds himself taking less and less pleasure in acts of senseless violence. He begins contemplating giving up crime himself to become a productive member of society and start a family of his own, while reflecting on the notion that his own children could possibly end up being just as destructive as he has been, if not more so.

IMO Kubrick improved the story greatly by omitting Burgess' epilogue.
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Svengoolie 3

A lot of people feel that way, but they kiss that burgess was trying to say real change comes when a person decides to, not when he's forced to.
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Rev. Powell

Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on March 24, 2019, 10:46:52 PM
A lot of people feel that way, but they kiss that burgess was trying to say real change comes when a person decides to, not when he's forced to.

I didn't miss that. I, like many (most?) others, think the ending feels false and weakens his point. It is more forceful when we are faced with the argument that it is better for us to tolerate Alex's evil than to coerce good behavior. Burgess presenting evil as "just a phase" in an epilogue was really a huge blot on a book that was otherwise a masterpiece. Kubrick was right to omit it.

I also think Kubrick turned a pretty pedestrian novel THE SHINING into a masterpiece, although I know Trevor feels the exact opposite.
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Svengoolie 3

Yes, kubrick was a great movie maker. He hired A.C. Clarke to write a great SF novel because he wanted to do a great SF movie. You should read "the lost worlds of 2001" to see clarke's comments on working with him.

He was a very brave man, when he did Spartacus he openly defied "the black list" and hired "verboten" writers who had not cooperated with McArthy's jihad.

The only thing I ever disliked about him was how he screwed over the makers of the movie "failsafe" because it conflicted with "Dr.Stragelove.
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Quote from: 316zombie on March 23, 2019, 09:21:45 PMi hate it. curtis loves it. go figure. :cheers:

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Svengoolie 3

Quote from: Allhallowsday on March 26, 2019, 10:42:38 PM
Quote from: 316zombie on March 23, 2019, 09:21:45 PMi hate it. curtis loves it. go figure. :cheers:

Films with rape scenes always repel me.  I think it's a great movie.  I hate it. 


Ever see 'galaxy of terror"?
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