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[Allhallowsday]

Ex-Republican Who Doctored Presidential Seal Is Happy Trump Stood In Front Of It 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-republican-who-doctored-presidential-seal-is-happy-trump-stood-in-front-of-it-141812905.html   

[Svengoolie 3]

I loved this.

[lester1/2jr]

so the whole russia thing was nothing. what a waste of time

[RCMerchant]

I would say it was something. It proved that there was Russian interferance with our elections- something this president ignores. He welcomes it.

[Svengoolie 3]

I would say it was something. It proved that there was Russian interferance with our elections- something this president ignores. He welcomes it.

And his buddy Moscow Mitchell won't allow a single bill protecting a! eerican elections to be heard.

[lester1/2jr]

No one ever doubted that before. its likes being outraged that people drive faster than 55 on the highway

[RCMerchant]

No one ever doubted that before. its likes being outraged that people drive faster than 55 on the highway

Trump does. Or doesn't care. That's a problem.
I can understand me or you not caring. But our PRESIDENT- that's his job. Not playing golf , or 'tweeting' stupid nonsense.

[Svengoolie 3]

No one ever doubted that before. its likes being outraged that people drive faster than 55 on the highway

Trump does. Or doesn't care. That's a problem.
I can understand me or you not caring. But our PRESIDENT- that's his job. Not playing golf , or 'tweeting' stupid nonsense.

Amen brother RC!

Since I can't karma you have a pic of bela Lugosi instead.

[Allhallowsday]

Pal o' pal o' mine.  


Ronald Reagan Makes Racist Comment To Richard Nixon In Newly Released Audio

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ronald-reagan-racist-audio-nixon-110547900.html  

[indianasmith]

An ugly comment made in a moment of anger nearly 50 years ago.
Let's be honest; standards were a bit different then.
Reagan's legacy was much larger than that one moment of nastiness.

[Svengoolie 3]

An ugly comment made in a moment of anger nearly 50 years ago.
Let's be honest; standards were a bit different then.
Reagan's legacy was much larger than that one moment of nastiness.

Yeah, he started the trend of union busting which has helped corporate america drive down wages to the point the middle class is almost extinct.

He shifted american policy away from human rights in foreign countries and towards what makes american corporations more money thru cheap labor.

He cut taxes on the rich and covered it by creating the first tax on social security

He started a war on drugs that he exploded our  prison population.

He provoked the Russians and nearly started a war with the soviets,  and might have if Mikhail gorbachev wasn't more reasonable.

Since reagan's years the american working and middle classes have lost ground while the 1% now control more wealth that the rest of  america.


That's  the Reagan legacy.  One 40 hour work week used to support a family.  Now two people have to work 3-4 jobs and have a few "side hustles" just to survive.

A relative of mine has lost her good paying  job and is now going o have to work a couple worse ones and sell her blood to get by.  thankfully  she has a rare type.

[lester1/2jr]

the entire thing made no sense. Why would i care if if trump was beholden to russia? what would that mean for americans? nothing.

[indianasmith]

An ugly comment made in a moment of anger nearly 50 years ago.
Let's be honest; standards were a bit different then.
Reagan's legacy was much larger than that one moment of nastiness.

Yeah, he started the trend of union busting which has helped corporate america drive down wages to the point the middle class is almost extinct.

He shifted american policy away from human rights in foreign countries and towards what makes american corporations more money thru cheap labor.

He cut taxes on the rich and covered it by creating the first tax on social security

He started a war on drugs that he exploded our  prison population.

He provoked the Russians and nearly started a war with the soviets,  and might have if Mikhail gorbachev wasn't more reasonable.

Since reagan's years the american working and middle classes have lost ground while the 1% now control more wealth that the rest of  america.


That's  the Reagan legacy.  One 40 hour work week used to support a family.  Now two people have to work 3-4 jobs and have a few "side hustles" just to survive.

A relative of mine has lost her good paying  job and is now going o have to work a couple worse ones and sell her blood to get by.  thankfully  she has a rare type.

Where to start with such a crock?
OK, first of all, Reagan had no problem with unions per se - after all, he was a former Union President.  However, Unions had gained so much power that they could hold public safety hostage, and had become rife with corruption and criminal influences.

AWAY from human rights in foreign countries?  How about freeing Eastern Europe from Soviet domination?  How about casting the Soviet Union on the ash heap of history as the evil, corrupt, and despotic monstrosity that it was?  Reagan had a clearer moral vision as to the true nature of the Soviet Union than any American politician since Harry Truman.

And yes, he cut taxes.  Across the board.  For ALL Americans.  Seriously, do you think it is just for ANY man to have 75% and more of his annual earnings stripped from him by the government just because he is successful?  That is predatory and wicked, not fair and progressive.  What entitles the government to take 3/4 of ANY man's income?

As far as the war on drugs goes, how about this:  If you don't want to go to jail for using drugs, DON'T USE DRUGS.  Problem solved.

Yes, he challenged the Soviet Union.  They needed to be challenged.  The disastrous policy of détente had led to Communist advances all over the world.  Look around you now.  The Berlin Wall is smashed for souvenirs; the Soviet Union no longer exists.    Free markets and free people where once there were gulags and KGB thugs.  Eastern Europe free and democratic.  Love of country fashionable again.  An end to the awful "malaise days" of the Carter administration.

THAT IS THE LEGACY OF RONALD REAGAN.

[Svengoolie 3]

Nice way to sidestep my points.


Reagan's supply side  economics never worked for anyone but the rich. The "theory' thastmgiveng more money to time rich helps everyone has Been exploded time and time again,  it only makes the rich richer.  Just like trump's recent trillion dollar tax cut for billionaires,  it made the rich richer and exploded the deficit,  which they now want to address by robbing the poor.

Again,  I pointed out thst in the days Before Reagan a working man coiuld support a family andmwhiome working 40 hours a week.  Try that now!

Also Reagan deregulaged and reregulatedx deliberately driving a bulldozer over FDR's new deal controls meant to stop another great depression thru unregulated stock markets and business.  Right after Reagan left office we had the S&L crisis and guess what happened? The rich plundered the economy without regulations to stop them,  and the American public was then robbed a second time to pay for it and we're still repaying the s&l bailout that   Reagan created.

Since then we've had an economic disaster every decade,  and in each case the rich  get richer and everyone else loses.

reagan also ushered in the dawn of downsizing, which started on his watch. Good jobs began disappearing from america and low paying jobs began appearing in other countries,  again the rich gitmrisher and working peoplecs incomes shrank.

As to the fall of the soviet union,  so what?  I'd rather have the soviet union around and be able to have a good life on a 40 hour A week  job with some security that have what we have after Reagan!

As to the drug issue, it's  none of the government's business if I do marijuana and I'll damn well do it if I want to,  which I happen not to.  I don't do grass but itcs because I choose not to,  and if I wanted to I damn well would.  People donct
Deserve to be in orison for it and have criminal records for it!

As for not breaking the law if you don't  want the consequences it's  funny how many conservatives have that 'tude until people are arrested for blocking access to an abortion clinic then cry about how "persecuted" they are.

Reagan was a disaster for the majority of americans,  his policies helped destroy the american dream for most people and sadly at least as third of  america never learned from it.

[Leah]

Wasn't the Soviet union's economy failing when Regan took office?