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Started by ER, August 22, 2019, 09:20:07 AM

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ER

Someone said something interesting me in a far-fetched way. She said she thinks "now that gays have achieved acceptance" that pedophiles are next in line, and that the recent upsurge in stories about Michael Jackson's alleged sexuality are not unintentional but part of an effort to ease society into thinking "well I liked Michael and if he was a pedophile maybe pedophiles aren't so bad." She laid out a (prediction) case that this is going on and in the '20s there will be a push to make pedophiles the next group to gain societal approval.

I don't know that she's right but the more I listened and thought about it the less implausible it began to seem since there will always be a desire out there to push back the boundaries of what is tolerated.

I don't think I'd want to live in a culture that allowed children to become sexual targets.
What does not kill me makes me stranger.

LilCerberus

NAMBLA's been around since the early '90s, and they've got all kinds of BS to justify their perversion.
I wouldn't knock it.
I'll bet their next move would be to start a legal fund for all the minors (peer on peer) who go to jail for sexting.
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ER

Wait...what...a minor can go to jail for sexting another minor? (That's like sending nude pics, right?)
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RCMerchant

Nah.
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There are too many good people in this world.
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RCMerchant

As far as teens 'Sexting'- that's just a modern version of teenagers doing "I'll show you mine if you show me yours".
Adults who try to f**k kids. They should be hung by the neck until dead.
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
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Allhallowsday

Quote from: LilCerberus on August 22, 2019, 01:54:30 PM
NAMBLA's been around since the early '90s...
NAMBLA's been around longer than that.  Fnck 'em. 

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LilCerberus

Quote from: Allhallowsday on August 22, 2019, 02:31:07 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 22, 2019, 01:54:30 PM
NAMBLA's been around since the early '90s...
NAMBLA's been around longer than that.  Fnck 'em. 
Yeah, and the people of California voted against gay marriage.
A federal judge with a transparent agenda said the people weren't smart enough to make that decision.
"Science Fiction & Nostalgia have become the same thing!" - T Bone Burnett
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LilCerberus

Quote from: RCMerchant on August 22, 2019, 02:01:04 PM
As far as teens 'Sexting'- that's just a modern version of teenagers doing "I'll show you mine if you show me yours".
And if teenagers get caught doing that, they can go to jail for production, distribution & possession of child pornography.
"Science Fiction & Nostalgia have become the same thing!" - T Bone Burnett
The world runs off money, even for those with a warped sense of what the world is.

ER

Quote from: LilCerberus on August 22, 2019, 04:08:37 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on August 22, 2019, 02:01:04 PM
As far as teens 'Sexting'- that's just a modern version of teenagers doing "I'll show you mine if you show me yours".
And if teenagers get caught doing that, they can go to jail for production, distribution & possession of child pornography.

Gosh.
What does not kill me makes me stranger.

Svengoolie 3

#9
Well in america we have constitution el rights that can't be violated even if the najoroity want to. Basically 51% of american can't vote to enslave 49% due to basic rights that are inviolable.

It took a while but america finally realized marriage is a right that all are entitled to even if a majority don't like it.

It's  funny how the right claims a majority vote is enough to ban same sex marriage and that doing so is a state right but when the majority  of americans vote for a democrat president the majority vote doesn't matter and when a state legalizses marijuana it doesn't have the right to.

The doctor that circumcised Trump threw away the wrong piece.

ER

#10
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on August 22, 2019, 04:14:09 PM
Well in america we have constitution el rights that can't be violated even if the najoroity want to. Basically 51% of american can't vote to enslave 49% due to basic rights that are inviolavle.

It took a while but american finally realized marriage is a right that all are entitled to even if a majority don't like it.

Itcs funny how the right claims a majority vote is enough to bad same sex marriage and that doing so is a state right but when the amjoroty of americans vote for a democrat president the majority vote doesn't matter and when a state legalizses marijuana it doesn't have the right to.

I get the spirit of what you're saying but the constitution also mandates that states  handle the making of all laws that do not specifically fall under federal jurisdiction, and the constitution says nothing about marriage and to my knowledge there has never been a federal marriage license. Marriage has always been under the jurisdiction of individual states, so for the federal government to step in and claim constitutional authority over marriage strikes a lot of people as out of bounds.

Do I dislike homosexual marriage? No. Do I think there is too much judicial activism? Well, I do when I don't like the ruling.  (How's that for candor?)

PS Are you sure you mean "all" are entitled to marriage? Even a pedophile marrying a child? Or a parent marrying an offspring? Don't you think there should be some limits?
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LilCerberus

Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on August 22, 2019, 04:14:09 PM
Well in america we have constitution el rights that can't be violated even if the najoroity want to. Basically 51% of american can't vote to enslave 49% due to basic rights that are inviolavle.

It took a while but american finally realized marriage is a right that all are entitled to even if a majority don't like it.

Itcs funny how the right claims a majority vote is enough to bad same sex marriage and that doing so is a state right but when the amjoroty of americans vote for a democrat president the majority vote doesn't matter and when a state legalizses marijuana it doesn't have the right to.
This is exactly why, if a large enough minority says a specific form of evil is "Not really BAD", then the subject is not only possible, but plausible.

Let me point out that the Virginia and New York are now discussing medically legalized infanticide, which I'm old enough to remember would've been something out some really bad sci-fi movie.
You may want to point out the states that have banned abortions or tried to since January of this year, which may be out of panic, maybe not, but I'm thoroughly convinced was a well intentioned effort to prevent mankind from going over the edge.
"Science Fiction & Nostalgia have become the same thing!" - T Bone Burnett
The world runs off money, even for those with a warped sense of what the world is.

Svengoolie 3

Quote from: LilCerberus on August 22, 2019, 04:42:05 PM
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on August 22, 2019, 04:14:09 PM
Well in america we have constitution el rights that can't be violated even if the najoroity want to. Basically 51% of american can't vote to enslave 49% due to basic rights that are inviolavle.

It took a while but american finally realized marriage is a right that all are entitled to even if a majority don't like it.

Itcs funny how the right claims a majority vote is enough to bad same sex marriage and that doing so is a state right but when the amjoroty of americans vote for a democrat president the majority vote doesn't matter and when a state legalizses marijuana it doesn't have the right to.
This is exactly why, if a large enough minority says a specific form of evil is "Not really BAD", then the subject is not only possible, but plausible.

Let me point out that the Virginia and New York are now discussing medically legalized infanticide, which I'm old enough to remember would've been something out some really bad sci-fi movie.
You may want to point out the states that have banned abortions or tried to since January of this year, which may be out of panic, maybe not, but I'm thoroughly convinced was a well intentioned effort to prevent mankind from going over the edge.

Gay marriage isn't evil. Being gay doesn't equate to being a pedophile. A lot of this sort of thing has been traced to Russian trolls deliberately spreading lies to moment hate and division in america.
The doctor that circumcised Trump threw away the wrong piece.

LilCerberus

Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on August 22, 2019, 04:59:34 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus on August 22, 2019, 04:42:05 PM
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on August 22, 2019, 04:14:09 PM
Well in america we have constitution el rights that can't be violated even if the najoroity want to. Basically 51% of american can't vote to enslave 49% due to basic rights that are inviolavle.

It took a while but american finally realized marriage is a right that all are entitled to even if a majority don't like it.

Itcs funny how the right claims a majority vote is enough to bad same sex marriage and that doing so is a state right but when the amjoroty of americans vote for a democrat president the majority vote doesn't matter and when a state legalizses marijuana it doesn't have the right to.
This is exactly why, if a large enough minority says a specific form of evil is "Not really BAD", then the subject is not only possible, but plausible.

Let me point out that the Virginia and New York are now discussing medically legalized infanticide, which I'm old enough to remember would've been something out some really bad sci-fi movie.
You may want to point out the states that have banned abortions or tried to since January of this year, which may be out of panic, maybe not, but I'm thoroughly convinced was a well intentioned effort to prevent mankind from going over the edge.

Gay marriage isn't evil. Being gay doesn't equate to being a pedophile. A lot of this sort of thing has been traced to Russian trolls deliberately spreading lies to moment hate and division in america.
No, of course it isn't.
But let me reiterate, the subject of infanticide, which would've been unthinkable in some '70s b-movie about an overpopulated Earth, is now being openly discussed by pro-choice lawmakers in New York and Virginia.
http://www.badmovies.org/othermovies/childbride/
"Science Fiction & Nostalgia have become the same thing!" - T Bone Burnett
The world runs off money, even for those with a warped sense of what the world is.

Svengoolie 3

So a few extremists make a few outrageous proposals and suddenly all democrats believe it?  Why is it when I point out that some religious types advocate extremism and violence I get told they're just a fee nuts,  but if a single gay,  or democrat,  or liberal,  does or says anything heinous suddely the whole left is painted with that brush?

I'm  a leftist and proud. I oppose vehemently any form of pedophilia. I support abortion rights because I believe no man shouildbe able tofmorce a woman to go thru with pregnancy until men can get pregnant and thru history women have been subjugated by men, it's time for them to have freedom.

I'm  against "infanticide".

A lot of arguments against the left are based on reductio ad absurdum, I. E.  If you believe a reasonable point of view that disagrees with mine, you must then support it to an utterly absurd degree.

Example. Me: I support the right of consenting adults to marry someone of the same sex.

Right winger: THEN YOU SUPPORT MARRYING CHILDREN AND ANIMALS!

Me: No, I don't.

RW: THEN YOUR VIEWS ARE INCONSISTENT AND HYPOCRITICAL AND THEREFORE INVALID!

Me: Xxxx you.

RW: I WIN THE ARGUMENT!


Yes there are some leftist views i don't  support. I stay with the left because on most issues I agree with them. I am not a drone,  I have not been assimilated by a leftist collective, I do not groupthink.

The doctor that circumcised Trump threw away the wrong piece.