STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER (2019)

Alex · December 24, 2019, 01:09:01 PM

Agreed. I'd say it was about as likely as Disney manipulating the reviews on the website.

Ted C · December 24, 2019, 02:45:23 PM

I saw it today, and I think I can say the following without spoiling anything.

The acting is fine, and the root of the story doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is that in their quest to make sure that they topped everything that has been done before in this "final" movie, they definitely overdid it.

It's as if what we saw on the screen was the result of 100 exaggerated retellings via oral tradition before anything was written down.

Dr. Whom · December 25, 2019, 03:52:48 AM

It is a blast! It may be nonsense, but it is glorious nonsense.

There are many elements (chief being the return of Palpatine) that may be problematical for the general consistency of the Star Wars universe, but I agree that they work great in the context of this movie. And the Kylo Ren - Rey - Palpatine interactions here give a glimpse of what we might have had in the prequel trilogy, had Anakin and Amidala been actual characters.

For the rest, this is a movie with everything. I suppose the studio gave JJ Abrams a 20 page list of stuff they wanted in the movie, and he flipped through it and said 'Sure, we can do that, no problem'

Sit back and enjoy the ride!

Alex · December 25, 2019, 04:48:06 AM

Quote from: Dr. Whom on December 25, 2019, 03:52:48 AM
It is a blast! It may be nonsense, but it is glorious nonsense.

There are many elements (chief being the return of Palpatine) that may be problematical for the general consistency of the Star Wars universe, but I agree that they work great in the context of this movie. And the Kylo Ren - Rey - Palpatine interactions here give a glimpse of what we might have had in the prequel trilogy, had Anakin and Amidala been actual characters.

For the rest, this is a movie with everything. I suppose the studio gave JJ Abrams a 20 page list of stuff they wanted in the movie, and he flipped through it and said 'Sure, we can do that, no problem'

Sit back and enjoy the ride!

Wait Papatine comes back???

VenomX73 · December 25, 2019, 03:38:25 PM

Allhallowsday · December 25, 2019, 07:05:41 PM

The RIZE... of SKaEYE WALK AH !

RCMerchant · December 26, 2019, 12:29:40 AM

I should at least give some of this STAR WARS thing half a chance. I seen the first one in '77.
It was fun Flash Gordon stuff. But it got real old with it being on lunchboxes and pillow cases and endless toys and TV junk. The world turned to Star Wars.
I think -and thank- Star Wars for turning me into a punk rocker. Because I saw s**t being marketed and shoved down my throat.

Allhallowsday · December 26, 2019, 12:36:36 AM

The RYiiiZZe of SKA-EYE-WOKer...

VenomX73 · December 29, 2019, 02:15:26 PM

http://youtu.be/p5lD9HYa9QE

BoyScoutKevin · January 02, 2020, 05:29:59 PM

Star Wars : the Rise of Skywalker

If IV was a product of the '70's, then this is a product of today, but there is a lot of IV in it, even if what there is seemed to be amped up to the nth degree. And when I say something than I have seen it, and to date, I have seen o'er half the episodes.

Same
violence. next to IV, this is probably the most violent of all the episodes.
humor. yes
emotional impact. yes
actors. Lord, it was good to see Billy Dee Williams as Lando again, as he was the best thing I took out of V.
+ Richard E. Grant
Keri Russell
Domhall Gleason
action. oh, hell, yeah!

More
Complex
IV was basically a simple story simplely told, which is probably why it has lasted so long, as simple normally has a longer shelf life. Whereas, this one was more complex. One need go no further than the trailer to see that.
Honest
in a conflict it is not the only "bad" guys that die, but also the major "good" guys, as here, which left me with one disappointment which I won't go into, as it gives away a major plot point.
was it worth it? was the war really worth it? This one comes nearer to asking that question than any of the other episodes.
Realistic
I put it to one, that the victory celebration at the end of the film was more realistic than most of the other victory celebrations in the other episodes, as it was more spontaneous and less organzied than those.

Past
blue state/red state. whether deliberate or happenstance, the color blue is associated with Democrats and liberals, while the color red is associated with Republicans and conservatives.

Present
whether we see 'em or not, rumor has it that there are 2 more trilogies in the works. There is certainly enough materials out there. To date of all the inhabited planets, and if each has the same population of earth, and some such as Coruscant have more, then we are talking about billions of people with billions of stories and a history that is o'er 5000 years. And with the apparent success of The Mandalorian, one can do something Star Wars that has little connection to the original films.

Future
should one see it? That depends so much on the person asking. So, Ill say what I do. If a film interests me, then I go see it. If it does not interest me, then I do not go see it.

And we will see what we will see.

ralfy · January 03, 2020, 08:05:38 AM

Warning: spoilers

Here's what I've been told from a source that worked on TROS.

Gabriel Knight · January 03, 2020, 08:35:39 AM

Quote from: ralfy on January 03, 2020, 08:05:38 AM
Warning: spoilers

Here's what I've been told from a source that worked on TROS.

So, basically, JJA is awesome and did everything perfectly, even when I consider THE FORCE AWAKENS as total garbage.

Allhallowsday · January 03, 2020, 05:34:10 PM

A close friend of mine who lives in Reno, NV saw it and enjoyed it. He did confirm that "there were plot holes big enough to drive a death star through!"

ralfy · January 04, 2020, 07:59:27 AM

Quote from: Gabriel Knight on January 03, 2020, 08:35:39 AM

So, basically, JJA is awesome and did everything perfectly, even when I consider THE FORCE AWAKENS as total garbage.

Could have, and maybe a bit better than what came out. In general, we can't blame the film crew and the actors because they did their best. Unfortunately, producers got in the way, and there were too many problems in the previous films that had to be resolved.

Alex · January 04, 2020, 11:26:46 AM

Watched it today, thought it was good. You could tell they were doing their best to work around Carrie Fisher having died and I think that lead to some of the films weaker points. Not a fan of JJ Abrams as a film maker generally, but he did ok this time. I was worried he'd do what he done with Lost and introduce a load of elements without thinking out a satisfactory resolution for them. A lot of things were still left undeveloped, but you can only fit so many things into an already fairly long run time before a film becomes overbloated (I'd have liked to know a little bit about the Knights of Ren for example and the Asian woman's character whose name I've forgotten, Lando could have handled better). The film hit a few emotional spots, possibly more due to my attachment to various characters from my childhood and it still has too many action sequences and not enough character development but despite all these quibbles it ended up being a decent (although not exceptional) film.