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Not a good review for Monster Hunter.

Started by Alex, December 19, 2020, 06:36:52 AM

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Alex

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WingedSerpent

Honestly, I would have gone to see it.  It looks just like Anderson's Resident Evil movies-just with kaiju. 
At least, that's what Gary Busey told me...

Jim H

Quote from: Alex on December 19, 2020, 06:36:52 AM
In fact I don't think there is anything positive in the film about this one...

http://www.indiewire.com/2020/12/monster-hunter-review-movie-1234604812/

The whole "alternate world setting is actually another world and regular heroes from Earth fall into it to be our everyman" is just the worst method of adapting things.  Just lazy and never, ever works.

indianasmith

As long as I can see giant lizards smashing stuff, I'm good.  I'll check it out!
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claws

Seems like director Paul W. S. Anderson and his wife Milla Jovovich were trying really hard to start a new franchise after they did the Resident Evil movies. But hey, Monster Hunter is #1 at the box office.

pacman000

Quote from: Jim H on December 20, 2020, 10:39:11 PM
Quote from: Alex on December 19, 2020, 06:36:52 AM
In fact I don't think there is anything positive in the film about this one...

http://www.indiewire.com/2020/12/monster-hunter-review-movie-1234604812/

The whole "alternate world setting is actually another world and regular heroes from Earth fall into it to be our everyman" is just the worst method of adapting things.  Just lazy and never, ever works.
It seemed to work well enough for Monster Rancher & Digimon.

Jim H

Quote from: pacman000 on December 21, 2020, 02:22:51 PM
Quote from: Jim H on December 20, 2020, 10:39:11 PM
Quote from: Alex on December 19, 2020, 06:36:52 AM
In fact I don't think there is anything positive in the film about this one...

http://www.indiewire.com/2020/12/monster-hunter-review-movie-1234604812/

The whole "alternate world setting is actually another world and regular heroes from Earth fall into it to be our everyman" is just the worst method of adapting things.  Just lazy and never, ever works.
It seemed to work well enough for Monster Rancher & Digimon.

Well, I'm not so much talking about media where that's the originating idea; I'm talking where there's a property in a fantastical setting, and when they adapt it to a new media (usually film) they use things like military people from "the real world" falling in or stuff from the fantasy world falling into "the real world" to explain things easier to the audience or, in some cases, to cut the budget.  The live action Sonic the Hedgehog would be another example, same with the Mario Bros live action film.  Contrast this with the Detective Pikachu film, where it's simply set in the Pokemon universe, which is the better way of doing it.

pacman000

Quote from: Jim H on December 21, 2020, 02:54:48 PM
Quote from: pacman000 on December 21, 2020, 02:22:51 PM
Quote from: Jim H on December 20, 2020, 10:39:11 PM
Quote from: Alex on December 19, 2020, 06:36:52 AM
In fact I don't think there is anything positive in the film about this one...

http://www.indiewire.com/2020/12/monster-hunter-review-movie-1234604812/

The whole "alternate world setting is actually another world and regular heroes from Earth fall into it to be our everyman" is just the worst method of adapting things.  Just lazy and never, ever works.
It seemed to work well enough for Monster Rancher & Digimon.

Well, I'm not so much talking about media where that's the originating idea; I'm talking where there's a property in a fantastical setting, and when they adapt it to a new media (usually film) they use things like military people from "the real world" falling in or stuff from the fantasy world falling into "the real world" to explain things easier to the audience or, in some cases, to cut the budget.  The live action Sonic the Hedgehog would be another example, same with the Mario Bros live action film.  Contrast this with the Detective Pikachu film, where it's simply set in the Pokemon universe, which is the better way of doing it.
True. But neither Monster Rancher nor Digimon originally relied on real-world characters entering their respective worlds; that element was added for the TV shows. It probably only worked because the games were still new, without much of an established mythos.

chainsaw midget

QuoteWell, I'm not so much talking about media where that's the originating idea; I'm talking where there's a property in a fantastical setting, and when they adapt it to a new media (usually film) they use things like military people from "the real world" falling in or stuff from the fantasy world falling into "the real world" to explain things easier to the audience or, in some cases, to cut the budget.  The live action Sonic the Hedgehog would be another example, same with the Mario Bros live action film.  Contrast this with the Detective Pikachu film, where it's simply set in the Pokemon universe, which is the better way of doing it.
Mario and Luigi being from the "real world" and warping into another world wasn't something the movies made up.  That used to be a part of the storyline. 

And it's not just something they made up for that cartoon with Captain Lou Albano either.  When Japan created their own Mario anime back in the day, Mario and Luigi being from the real world was part of that too. 

Jim H

Quote from: chainsaw midget on December 21, 2020, 11:22:04 PM
QuoteWell, I'm not so much talking about media where that's the originating idea; I'm talking where there's a property in a fantastical setting, and when they adapt it to a new media (usually film) they use things like military people from "the real world" falling in or stuff from the fantasy world falling into "the real world" to explain things easier to the audience or, in some cases, to cut the budget.  The live action Sonic the Hedgehog would be another example, same with the Mario Bros live action film.  Contrast this with the Detective Pikachu film, where it's simply set in the Pokemon universe, which is the better way of doing it.
Mario and Luigi being from the "real world" and warping into another world wasn't something the movies made up.  That used to be a part of the storyline. 

And it's not just something they made up for that cartoon with Captain Lou Albano either.  When Japan created their own Mario anime back in the day, Mario and Luigi being from the real world was part of that too. 

Yeah, I remember that it got added in on adaptations fairly early (just a year or two after the first Super Mario Bros game came out, if memory serves), it's just awkward and doesn't work well - I don't like the conceit at all.  It's definitely not there in the (extremely thin) storylines of the games, at least not in the English releases.

pacman000

#10
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAAAE.pdf

The most the instruction book says is "Mario...hears about the Mushroom People's plight." He can hear of their plight from a New York plumbing shop without changing the story. Shoot; the basic concept was inspired by Alice in Wonderland; wouldn't that imply that the story was supposed to be about a regular person entering a fantastical world?

You'd have a point if the games had been about a Mushroom Knight trying to save a princess, & they changed it to a plumber for the adaptions, but Mario's been a plumber since Mario Bros; he's always been a regular guy thrust into extraordinary situations.

Trevor

I understand it was filmed in South Africa.
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