In which movie did this happen for the first time?

The Burgomaster · May 29, 2006, 07:11:40 AM

Have you ever wondered which movie was the FIRST to use the following scenes/dialogue:

* People in some very high place, and one of them says, "Whatever you do, DON'T LOOK DOWN!"

* A cop throwing his badge on the police chief's desk after the chief just chewed him out.

* People hiding from a villain or monster and one of them saying, "When I give the signal, RUN, and DON'T LOOK BACK!"

* Someone saying, "Do this for [name]. He/she would have wanted it that way!"

* An ex-convict saying, "I'd rather die than go back to the joint."

* The hero saying, "Man shouldn't meddle with nature [or the will of God, or something like that . . . ]"

Who is responsible for starting this madness??????

odinn7 · May 29, 2006, 07:20:58 AM

Similar to the hiding and running one that you mention but what about when one gets shot or injured in some way and they tell the other one(s)- "Go...leave me behind and save yourself!"

Good topic...as far as who started it all? I suspect it was some sort of government mind control experiment that got out of hand.

ulthar · May 29, 2006, 07:55:43 AM

Odinn7 Wrote:

"Go...leave me behind and save yourself!"

Can't name a specific, but did that not start with the WWII movies from the 40's/50's?

Shadowphile · May 29, 2006, 09:40:02 AM

The 40s/50s WWII movie line was closer to

'You go. I'll hold them off.' which seems to me like a hold-over from westerns.

More for the list....

"Doctor, is he...... (dead)?"

"You don't understand! You're tampering with things beyond your control!"

daveblackeye15 · May 29, 2006, 10:57:32 AM

After being called insan the scientist will say "Yes! We're all insane!"

They do that one a lot right?

Inyarear · May 29, 2006, 06:24:00 PM

What about those sarcastic puns you always hear from Arnold Schwartzenegger about how he killed one of his foes?

I think they actually started with James "I gave him the boot" Bond.

trekgeezer · May 29, 2006, 06:36:41 PM

I remember the one from George Lazenby as Bond. He and Diana Rigg are skiing away from the bad guys when one of them falls under the snowblower clearing the road. "My, he had a lot of guts!"

There is also a non-verbal version of " Leave me behind" phrase. The knowing look exchanged between the hero and the brave wounded soul about to sacrifice himself by setting off the bomb or grenade to slow down the pursuers so the hero and rest of the main cast can escape.

I actually think these cliches must have started on cave paintings.

Shadowphile · May 29, 2006, 09:59:12 PM

"Mad? Was Ceasar mad? Was Alexander mad? Was Napolean mad? Was Hitler mad?"

"They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Leewenhook. Now they're laughing at me."

in their endless variations; military, scientific etc.

peter johnson · May 29, 2006, 10:00:36 PM

"Run, and don't look back!" would actually have its roots in Genesis, wherein Lot's wife is implored not to look back at the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah. And we all know what happened to her . . .
I can't do the ones mentioned, but I do know that the very first film to shoot down a sprial staircase from the very centre, giving that "inside the snail" look, was Fritz Lang's "M", 1932.
The film origin of someone being implored not to meddle with the realm of God would seem to come from the 1910 Edison version of Mary Shelly's "Frankenstien".
I think the cliche of the ex-con saying he'd rather die than go back to the joint may come from "Angels With Dirty Faces", 1932, but I could be wrong.
peter johnson/denny crane

Shadowphile · May 29, 2006, 10:28:13 PM

That whole story about Lot's wife was cooked up by Lot to cover the fact that he bumped her off. If no one was supposed to look back, how do they know what happened to her? Unless Lot was behind her, in which case he could quite easily have knifed/clubbed/strangled her with no one the wiser. This also clears the path for him to nail both of his daughters while 'drunk'....

peter johnson · May 30, 2006, 11:20:28 PM

Oh yeah? So who concocted the "salt", wise guy?
Are you saying it was all a frameup, Shadowphile?
Were the witnesses paid off?
Oh, Shadowphile, you're much too good for this one-camel town . . .
peter johnson/denny crane
channeling Ida Lupino . . .

Shadowphile · May 31, 2006, 02:40:33 PM

Everyone else was running ahead. Logical, seeing as how they were younger than Lot and his wife. I seriously doubt anyone returned to the scene of the crime to check Lot's story, seeing as how they ended up in the mountains, so we only have Lot's word on what happened...

Monster victim empties his gun into the monster, then throws the gun at it.

raj · May 31, 2006, 02:43:12 PM

Hmm, sounds like the makings of Dan Brown's next book: The Lot Code.

The Burgomaster · May 31, 2006, 04:41:50 PM

How did this whimsical topic turn into a religious discussion . . . and another potentially controversial Dan Brown book?

peter johnson · May 31, 2006, 11:32:43 PM

Whimsy is a conspiracy . . .
George Lamasa's translation of the Aramaic Pes**tta text points out that by saying "pillar of salt", the author of this section of Genesis was using a colloquialism that means she became petrified with fear and died, not that she turned into a literal pillar of salt --
BUT, far more significant, and despite the Bible movies of our time, Lot and his entire group -- including his wife -- had ALREADY entered safely into the haven city of Zoar & settled in, and Lot's wife looked toward Gomorrah & watched the confligration AFTER they'd already gotten into safety in the city, so Lot COULDN"T have murdered her on the plains of Sodom -- we must assume there were witnesses to her dropping dead from fear (Genesis 19: 20-26).
She still could've been murdered, but not by Lot . . .
peter crane/denny johnson