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Started by CheezeFlixz, July 07, 2007, 12:30:23 AM

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Inyarear

Quote from: peter johnson on July 22, 2007, 07:55:43 PM
Dear Inyarear:
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Now, take down your sneering and ill-conceived rant/flame/bash, and we'll discuss this in private.

Ozzymandias

Quote from: Midnightxpress on July 22, 2007, 03:36:19 PM
But the biggest cliche in films...childhood best friends that become arch enemies in adulthood, usually wth one being a cop and the other a villianous scumbag...


Ozzymandias speaks: Along the same lines is the one from a lot of old TV shows where one of the characters has a twin brother or sister that is the exact opposite than them. It is usually played by the same person.

My favorite of this group was Abraham Lincold Hogg, Boss Hogg's black suited, economy car driving minister brother. I also liked Ophelia, Morticia's blonde flower-child sister who could liked to use judo on Gomez. My least favorite was Alice's whistle-blowing, ex-Marine DI cousin who made the Brady's do exercises every morning. I can't remember the character's name. I hated that episode as a kid. :hatred:

Ozzymandias has spoken!!!

Jack

"Grizzled guy"TM usually dies heroically to save everyone else in the end. 

Monsters kill people (presumeably for food) but they never eat their victims.

There's got to be a comic relief character who's usually unbearably obnoxious, and more often than not he'll appear to get killed but then he actually lives.

Most monsters have some sort of extremely hard exo-skeleton that makes them immune to gunfire, but this doesn't stop people from shooting at them hundreds of times.





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rebel_1812

Quote from: Inyarear on July 16, 2007, 07:22:11 AM
to the open perversity of V for Vendetta,

What exactly was perverse about that movie?
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Quote"Grizzled guy"TM usually dies heroically to save everyone else in the end.
Sometimes "Grizzled Guy"TM actually turns out to be the hero, Empire of the Ants, The Thing, Prophecy...
QuoteMonsters kill people (presumeably for food) but they never eat their victims.
Do you not hear??!? dey kill only to keeel!!!
QuoteMost monsters have some sort of extremely hard exo-skeleton that makes them immune to gunfire, but this doesn't stop people from shooting at them hundreds of times.
Wouldn't you? Someone may pierce it.
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Quoteto the open perversity of V for Vendetta,
What exactly was perverse about that movie?
Guy tortured girl for weeks, she forgives him.

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The Monster kills every male character it comes into contact with but only captures the (usually) lone female character...allowing the remaining characters to mount a rescue mission.
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Quote from: rebel_1812 on July 23, 2007, 08:24:07 AM
Quote from: Inyarear on July 16, 2007, 07:22:11 AM
to the open perversity of V for Vendetta,

What exactly was perverse about that movie?

Just about everything. It's pro-terrorist, pro-sodomy, anti-American, and anti-Christian. If you need the long version of this answer, you can find that in a few reviews my fellow Christians have written, as well as one by a fellow conservative.

Having read Alan Moore's other famous work Watchmen, I see that he is a lot fairer to opposing viewpoints than the V movie ever was. (He's also a master of probing at perversities--Watchmen was an examination of just about everything that could possibly be wrong with guys who dress up in masks and fancy costumes to fight crime.) That's why V for Vendetta is definitely not his movie, even if it was adapted from his book.

You know, now that you mention it, anti-Americanism in films is getting to be something of a cliche too.

rebel_1812

Quote from: Inyarear on July 23, 2007, 07:10:31 PM
Quote from: rebel_1812 on July 23, 2007, 08:24:07 AM
Quote from: Inyarear on July 16, 2007, 07:22:11 AM
to the open perversity of V for Vendetta,

What exactly was perverse about that movie?

Just about everything. It's pro-terrorist, pro-sodomy, anti-American, and anti-Christian. If you need the long version of this answer, you can find that in a few reviews my fellow Christians have written, as well as one by a fellow conservative.

Having read Alan Moore's other famous work Watchmen, I see that he is a lot fairer to opposing viewpoints than the V movie ever was. (He's also a master of probing at perversities--Watchmen was an examination of just about everything that could possibly be wrong with guys who dress up in masks and fancy costumes to fight crime.) That's why V for Vendetta is definitely not his movie, even if it was adapted from his book.

You know, now that you mention it, anti-Americanism in films is getting to be something of a cliche too.

You realize America was founded through rebellion which nowadays would be considered terrorism.  Consider the Boston Tea Party and how much property damage was done.  If that took place today it would be considered terrorism.  There is nothing anti-American about being against the establishment.
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indianasmith

QUOTE:   You realize America was founded through rebellion which nowadays would be considered terrorism.  Consider the Boston Tea Party and how much property damage was done.  If that took place today it would be considered terrorism.  There is nothing anti-American about being against the establishment.

The Tea Party was more of an organized act of vandalism than terrorism, actually.  The ship's captain was informed of the night the tea would be destroyed so he could have his crew ashore, the lone sentinel was tied and guarded, then released after the deed was done, and the smashed lock of the cargo hold replaced with a new one.  Sam Adams and his men wanted to make sure that what they did was a clear political statement and not a random act of destruction . . .  his men were also instructed to dump ALL of the tea into the harbor and not keep any for themselves.  The one fellow caught stuffing his pockets with tea leaves was thrown overboard and forced to swim for shore, an incident immortalized in JOHNNY TREMAINE.
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Quote from: rebel_1812 on July 23, 2007, 08:27:59 PM

You realize America was founded through rebellion which nowadays would be considered terrorism.  Consider the Boston Tea Party and how much property damage was done.  If that took place today it would be considered terrorism.  There is nothing anti-American about being against the establishment.


I don't think so.  IndianaSmtih can correct me if I'm wrong, but the 'enemy' the rebels were fighting against were soldiers representing the British Crown.  One of the big offenses that led to both the Declaration of Independence and the War itself was the quartering of troops (and its incident looting).  Fighting an organized army representing a sovereign State is about as far from terrorism as one can get.

That's the thing that defines terrorism - indiscriminate attack of civilians.  They may claim it is for political reasons, or rebellion or whatever, but it is essentially the cowardly attack of unarmed people just doing the daily grind.
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QuoteJust about everything. It's pro-terrorist, pro-sodomy, anti-American, and anti-Christian.

Pro-sodomy? I must have missed that part, although I do admit to not watching it too intently. .
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QuoteThat's the thing that defines terrorism - indiscriminate attack of civilians.  They may claim it is for political reasons, or rebellion or whatever, but it is essentially the cowardly attack of unarmed people just doing the daily grind

To elaborate a bit further, Terrorism is simply fighting a war through terror, rather than a direct confrontation. Its purpose is to make the civillian population scared enough of attacks on themselves as individuals, that THEY pressure their governmental officials into giving in to the terrorist's demands. One step further is when the people start blaming their own government for not giving in to the demands of the terroristic forces, and blaming them for the violent outcome. Kinda reminds me of Stockholm Syndrome, only on a larger, less individual scale. The Boston Tea Party is not in any way an act of terrorism. Unfortunately, our government and media have caught on to the "terrorism" groove and realized they can turn large masses of people towards or against anything they choose, simply by adding "terrorism" or "anti-terrorism" to its name. Unfortunately, people fall for it. 
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ghouck

QuoteJust about everything. It's pro-terrorist, pro-sodomy, anti-American, and anti-Christian.

I just watched it last night, never heard sodomy mentioned in any way. America was only vaguely mentioned, and not in any outlandish way. I think people are way too sensitive and seeing opposition where none exists. It was a movie, not much else to it. .
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What about the tough guy cliche' where the main character is impossible to defeat?

Chronicle of Riddick anyone?