A movie that's bad because it overexaggerates

Menard · July 23, 2007, 08:11:27 PM

Quote from: WyreWizard on July 23, 2007, 07:06:23 PM
It seems you totally miss the point.

I didn't miss any point. You're a moron; I got that on the first reading.

Menard · July 23, 2007, 08:18:17 PM

Quote from: GoHawks on July 23, 2007, 07:45:47 PM
I don't mean to feed the troll, and I really don't mean to come off sounding like a troll myself, but I personally hated Red Dawn.

Maybe we need to hang up a sign for Wee Willy which reads Don't Feed the Troll.

I am not defending or recommending the movie; I did not like it either. It is just that Wee Willy's reasoning is, as always, preposterous and nothing but baiting.

Apparently he does this, as someone mentioned, to get a hard-on. I would like to add that once he gets his hard-on, he probably finishes it off by giving himself oral gratification*.

*No kids, don't make me spell that out.

Menard · July 23, 2007, 08:20:12 PM

Quote from: RCMerchant on July 23, 2007, 07:57:54 PM
This is not an insult...and I'm not trying to be a wise ass...

Good...

...that's my job.

indianasmith · July 23, 2007, 09:15:39 PM

QUOTE: "cough* War of 1812, Mexican/American War, Spanish/American War *cough*"

I'm certainly not taking up for WireWizard, but as a teacher of U S History, let me clarify here -

Only in the War of 1812 was the U S invaded. The British sailed up the Potomac and burned Washington DC, then tried to sieze Baltimore but were turned back at Ft. McHenry (hello, Star-Spangled Banner!). Then they tried to invade both New York and New Orleans in the last year of the war and were decisively defeated by Thomas MacDonough at the Battle of Plattsburg, and then by the far-better-known Andrew Jackson at New Orleans.

In the Mexican American War, there was an "incident" on the North bank of the Rio Grande - the territory ceded by Santa Anna after his capture at San Jacinto, but that cession was never recognized by the Mexican government. Still, the Republic of Texas claimed the Rio Grande as the border, and when the U S annexed Texas 10 years later they inherited that claim and posted troops on the river for the sole purpose of provoking an incident. As soon as there were shots fired, Pres. Polk got his declaration of war ("American blood has been shed on American soil by a foreign agressor" he said, although Congressman Abraham Lincoln of Illinois commented that the President of Mexico could have made the same claim with equal justice). America then invaded Mexico, whipped Santa Anna's army at Buena Vista, and Gen. Winfield Scott led an amphibious invasion at Vera Cruz with 11,000 men, who then marched overland and siezed Mexico City. THAT is how we got California, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, and Nevade into the Union. It was one of our least justified but best fought wars!

As far as the Spanish American War goes, there were Zero incursions into U S territory. The USS Maine blew up and sunk in Havana Bay, we declared war on Spain, whipped them in six months, and acquired a nice little empire for ourselves. It lasted just long enough to make Teddy Roosevelt a national hero and set him on his path to the Presidency . . .

sorry, but it's summer and I miss lecturing!

Menard · July 23, 2007, 09:18:34 PM

Quote from: indianasmith on July 23, 2007, 09:15:39 PM
sorry, but it's summer and I miss lecturing!

We don't.

zombie no.one · July 23, 2007, 10:03:49 PM

Hyperridiculous

ghouck · July 23, 2007, 11:38:21 PM

QuoteI don't mean to feed the troll, and I really don't mean to come off sounding like a troll myself, but I personally hated Red Dawn.

I never cared for it either, I watched it one evening at a friend's insistance, only to have to watch it again in government class the next week, and was even quized on it. Basically I wasted my own time watching it, which enabled me to sleep through it in calss. I remember it being way boring, and way drawn out. Didn't like it, but not for the retarded reasons the OP tried to point out. . .

Also, I remember getting points docked for not spelling "Swazye" right (mis-spelled again, didn't I). I always knew my school was retarded, , , ,

WyreWizard · July 24, 2007, 12:18:12 PM

Quote from: RCMerchant on July 23, 2007, 07:57:54 PM
WW- Why?...I know,YOU know,WE ALL know, that you do this because it gives you some kinda hard on. But what exactly is the nature of your perversion? This is not an insult...and I'm not trying to be a wise ass...I really am wondering about your motives. I post here because it's fun. I enjoy exchanging views and just general gabbing. You seem to enjoy abuse.Am I wrong?

Aw c'mon, RCMerchant. I like you and I like the rest of you. I enjoy having these little debates and the bunch of you are the best debaters I have come across. If you think my enjoyment of debates is a perversion, then you're free to think that. It doesn't make me like you any less. Yer clearly a very educated person RCMerchant. I wouldn't doubt it if you had a Master's degree in some field. You know I enjoy tearing apart movies for their flawed views of reality and you all tell me the reality flaws are mostly artistic licences. Now, I'm having a backyard barbecue this weekend and yer all invited, drink provided of course.

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ghouck · July 24, 2007, 01:17:19 PM

QuoteAny film which greatly over exaggerates the weaknesses in the US military by any foreign power on Earth is in my view a bad film.

That's not debating, that's just proving that you are incapable of reviewing a film honestly. I suppose you don't like the Terminator or Alien movies because it depicts humans as being vulnerable? Setting up a bunch of straw-man arguements to try and drive your points home doesn't help, but rather makes it look as if you EXPECT a thrashing to ensue.

WyreWizard · July 24, 2007, 01:33:49 PM

Quote from: ghouck on July 24, 2007, 01:17:19 PM
QuoteAny film which greatly over exaggerates the weaknesses in the US military by any foreign power on Earth is in my view a bad film.

That's not debating, that's just proving that you are incapable of reviewing a film honestly. I suppose you don't like the Terminator or Alien movies because it depicts humans as being vulnerable? Setting up a bunch of straw-man arguements to try and drive your points home doesn't help, but rather makes it look as if you EXPECT a thrashing to ensue.

Here ghouck, have a bottle of Quik and a package of twinkies on me. No, I'm not giving reviews of films, I'm just stating my opinion of them. If you've seen my movie posts before, you know I give my opinion of movies I like and ones I don't. In all honestly, I have never seen a film without any reality errors. I'm not just talking SciFi, horror, fantasy and comedy flicks. I'm also talking about romances, mysteries, dramas and the like.

Anyways ghouck, your opinion is greatly appreciated

Feel free to take a slice or two of pepperoni pizza.

Raffine · July 24, 2007, 01:36:49 PM

What are some movies you like?

WyreWizard · July 24, 2007, 01:40:52 PM

Quote from: Menard on July 23, 2007, 08:11:27 PM
Quote from: WyreWizard on July 23, 2007, 07:06:23 PM
It seems you totally miss the point.

I didn't miss any point. You're a moron; I got that on the first reading.

I will not dignify that with a response.

ghouck · July 24, 2007, 01:45:55 PM

QuoteNo, I'm not giving reviews of films, I'm just stating my opinion of them.

You said you love to debate, , and I don't see how what you are doing can be considered debating. .

QuoteIn all honestly, I have never seen a film without any reality errors.

So you must not like ANY movies, since reality errors seems to be a big hang-up for you. .

Quotehave a bottle of Quik and a package of twinkies on me

You actually eat that crap? weird. . .

QuoteFeel free to take a slice or two of pepperoni pizza

It's "taco day", and the tacos here are much better than the pizza.

WyreWizard · July 24, 2007, 01:57:51 PM

Quote from: Raffine on July 24, 2007, 01:36:49 PM
What are some movies you like?

Here have a Frankenstein Pez dispenser, a dozen Pez packets and a bottle of Coke to wash it all down. Now I'll admit I don't watch a whole lot of movies since I am usually turned off to them by their trailers. I don't go to the theaters very often. Most times, I go to take a date there or my nephew and nieces.

But some movies I have liked: Rosemary's Baby, Breakfast at Tiffany's, Dirty Harry, All Star Wars films, Bridges of Madison County, Minority Report, Logan's Run, Xanadu, Battle Beyond the Stars, just to name a few.

WyreWizard · July 24, 2007, 02:04:12 PM

Quote from: ghouck on July 24, 2007, 01:45:55 PM
Quote
You said you love to debate, , and I don't see how what you are doing can be considered debating. .

I apolgize for confusing you, but I hoped people would pick which points they wish to debate and they have done so with success in the past.

QuoteSo you must not like ANY movies, since reality errors seems to be a big hang-up for you. .

I like a few films

QuoteYou actually eat that crap? weird. . .

No, I just give stuff like that to the trick or treaters that knock on my door every year

QuoteIt's "taco day", and the tacos here are much better than the pizza.

I take from that response yer probly from the Southwest. I visited Santa Fe New Mexico once. They had some of the best Tex-Mex I've ever tried. So if its tacos you want, its tacos you get, crispy or soft-shelled
And some salsa and any drink of yer choice.