City buy Strip Club for $997,000.00 just to burn it down.

[CheezeFlixz]

http://www.independentmail.com/news/2008/jul/30/lavonia-city-manager-praised-after-city-buys-cafe-/



Now they'll whine and cry that they need to raise taxes because the coffers are now empty. 

[Jack]

"It gave a bad name for the town," Eidse said of the club. "I'm glad that good can overcome evil."

Aw, c'mon, boobs are evil?  That's just not right.

[Mr. DS]

Thats inspiring, now they can put something wholesome and good on that lot like Wal-Mart.     Once I again I have to say America is way too uptight about boobies.  Let them bounce free I say, as long as they're worth seeing that is. South America seems to have no problem with it. 

[Sister Grace]

Thats inspiring, now they can put something wholesome and good on that lot like Wal-Mart.     Once I again I have to say America is way too uptight about boobies.  Let them bounce free I say, as long as they're worth seeing that is. South America seems to have no problem with it. 

So let me get this straight, its ok for me to go bra-less as long as it appeasing to the eye...
I'm not trying to start an argument and trust me, i'm the last one you'd label as a feminist, but please do remember there are some chicks on this board. Besides, do you know how hard it is to pull of being bra-less and classy at the same time. Some of us are luck enough to that we can ( i like to think i'm one of those) but most wind up looking like a hood rat. My mother once told me that if you can put a pencil under your breast and it falls to the floor, then you can go free and bra-less. If you put a pencil under your breast and it stays wedged between folds of skin, start looking at lunch-lady bras....

[Mr. DS]

Sister, reading it back perhaps I wasn't clear.  South America there are boobs everywhere...on tv commercials, at the beaches, wherever.  I don't understand why America is so uptight about them if they are being shown at strip clubs. 

As for the "appeasing to the eye", I doubt anyone would want to see the local lunch lady bouncing around.  Much like no one would want to see me in a speedo. 

Sorry for the confusion.   

[CheezeFlixz]

Sister, reading it back perhaps I wasn't clear.  South America there are boobs everywhere...on tv commercials, at the beaches, wherever.  I don't understand why America is so uptight about them if they are being shown at strip clubs. 

As for the "appeasing to the eye", I doubt anyone would want to see the local lunch lady bouncing around.  Much like no one would want to see me in a speedo. 

Sorry for the confusion.   

Listen I'm all for setting those puppies free, let'em out, let'em free, let'em roam!

But in defense of the town I will say that about 2 years ago they wanted to build a strip club about 1 mile from my house. Now keep in mind 1 mile in town is a long way, 1 mile in the country is 2 doors down and that's what it was 2 doors down.

My first question was, why build it in the middle of no where? My next question was how negatively is it going to effect my property values? And then I asked how many drunks would be driving past my house back taking back roads to avoid the main roads and the cops.

So I was against it not on any moral grounds, but purely on safety and financial reasons. Besides I live in a dry country they don't sell booze here, so the club was going to be a BYOB club you just pay a cover on your booze and the closest liquor store is over 20 miles away so the location based purely on availability of liquor was just stupid.

So that begged the question, what else were they going to be selling there? I had a few ideas and I didn't want it a couple of doors down. So I got it blocked and made it impossible for the guy to open it up. The property was big enough for a club and parking lot or club and septic field, but not a club, parking lot and septic field as you can't put a septic field under a parking lot.

[Mr. DS]

I recall one opening a few miles down the road from my house.  The town didn't want it so to be pricks, the town refused to grant them a liquor license.  Obviously that didn't go over too well with the patrons who were surprised at the juice bar they offered.  The place went under around a year later. 

[Sister Grace]

Sister, reading it back perhaps I wasn't clear.  South America there are boobs everywhere...on tv commercials, at the beaches, wherever.  I don't understand why America is so uptight about them if they are being shown at strip clubs. 

As for the "appeasing to the eye", I doubt anyone would want to see the local lunch lady bouncing around.  Much like no one would want to see me in a speedo. 

Sorry for the confusion.   

Its ok, and sorry if i came across as offended, mostly i was being sarcastic.

Cheeze,
Trust me, I lived a couple of apartments down from a strip club, trust me, I don't suggest it. I'm all for strip clubs being able to be open and operating but you really dont want them in the vicinity of where you live. I'm glad things worked out for you. I know what you mean about there being a difference between a mile in the country and a mile in town. Dukedom is pretty much like that too.

[AndyC]

"Good news everybody. We've bought that awful strip bar and closed it down. By the way, we will have to postpone the new playground equipment and the paving of Main Street, and we have to lay off some police, but the good guys won! And Mr. Sullivan got a million dollars for that little shack, which just goes to show what good winners we are. We sure showed him."

In all seriousness, I can't think of a council anywhere I've lived that wouldn't be strung up by the thumbs for doing the same thing. And when people start talking about good overcoming evil in relation to a land-use issue, I cringe. Not saying the guy isn't a dirtbag; his business practices attest to that. But evil? Give me a break. Besides which, labeling other people evil is often the first step on the road to doing evil. You can justify an awful lot once you're confident enough in your own righteousness.

[vrock]

I don't understand how a strip club hurts families. Also the person embarassed about the billboards is ridiculous. The town is making a huge deal out of something that is not that bad (unless they allow minors which I'm pretty sure is illegal).

[CheezeFlixz]

Cheeze,
Trust me, I lived a couple of apartments down from a strip club, trust me, I don't suggest it. I'm all for strip clubs being able to be open and operating but you really dont want them in the vicinity of where you live. I'm glad things worked out for you. I know what you mean about there being a difference between a mile in the country and a mile in town. Dukedom is pretty much like that too.

Dukedom? Man I was there a few weeks ago and I thought was in a ghost town, I think every building was empty. I wa looking at property between Pilot Oak and Dukedom ... man to many chicken barns.

[dean]

Eh, gotta make your constituents happy, though that 'good overcoming evil' line was a bit rich.

Seems like a waste at first glance but if people overwhelmingly wanted it gone then so be it.  It's not like they completely p**sed away their money: they still have the land.  I wonder how much it really is worth, and whether it'll be a loss or gain.

I suppose at least now they can build something the community wants/use it as an investment for the council/city etc.

BUT if it was just a few influential members of council who pushed for this, then by all means string 'em up.

[Sister Grace]

Cheeze,
Trust me, I lived a couple of apartments down from a strip club, trust me, I don't suggest it. I'm all for strip clubs being able to be open and operating but you really dont want them in the vicinity of where you live. I'm glad things worked out for you. I know what you mean about there being a difference between a mile in the country and a mile in town. Dukedom is pretty much like that too.

Dukedom? Man I was there a few weeks ago and I thought was in a ghost town, I think every building was empty. I wa looking at property between Pilot Oak and Dukedom ... man to many chicken barns.

Yeah, I live a couple of miles down from Deb's Short Stop. I grew up most of my childhood and teenage years in either inner-cities or areas such as Jackson. Moving to this area is such a culture shock. I like the quietness but i've about had my fill. I was going to try and move in October but its looking like it's gonna have to wait till febuary. I wanted to go to Toronto, my brother wanted to go to Juno. But i think we've decided on Charleston, SC. At this point, I don't really care where we go, as long as its away....

[AndyC]

Eh, gotta make your constituents happy, though that 'good overcoming evil' line was a bit rich.

Seems like a waste at first glance but if people overwhelmingly wanted it gone then so be it.  It's not like they completely p**sed away their money: they still have the land.  I wonder how much it really is worth, and whether it'll be a loss or gain.

I suppose at least now they can build something the community wants/use it as an investment for the council/city etc.

BUT if it was just a few influential members of council who pushed for this, then by all means string 'em up.

I would think the price was for the business as a going concern. The property doesn't look like it's worth anywhere near that much, and the building would need a fair bit of work to turn it into anything else. Most of that money is gone.

The funny thing about taxpayers is that they will be initially happy until the long-term financial implications become clear. Then they'll complain about the tax increase, budget cuts depleted reserves or whatever made this possible. That's also assuming it isn't just a vocal minority who are applauding the move in the first place.

When you do something radical like this, even if it's to please your constituents, you'll likely end up in the pillory anyway.

[Trevor]

Eh, gotta make your constituents happy, though that 'good overcoming evil' line was a bit rich.

Seems like a waste at first glance but if people overwhelmingly wanted it gone then so be it.  It's not like they completely p**sed away their money: they still have the land.  I wonder how much it really is worth, and whether it'll be a loss or gain.

I suppose at least now they can build something the community wants/use it as an investment for the council/city etc.

BUT if it was just a few influential members of council who pushed for this, then by all means string 'em up.

I would think the price was for the business as a going concern. The property doesn't look like it's worth anywhere near that much, and the building would need a fair bit of work to turn it into anything else. Most of that money is gone.

The funny thing about taxpayers is that they will be initially happy until the long-term financial implications become clear. Then they'll complain about the tax increase, budget cuts depleted reserves or whatever made this possible. That's also assuming it isn't just a vocal minority who are applauding the move in the first place.

When you do something radical like this, even if it's to please your constituents, you'll likely end up in the pillory anyway.

They're changing almost all of the street and town names in South Africa which will cost the local taxpayer plenty ~ this is supposedly to redress the injustices of the past, what it is actually doing is destroying the past, in my humble opinion.