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Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t

Started by KYGOTC, February 15, 2009, 12:30:11 AM

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Quote from: Nukie 2 on February 17, 2009, 10:45:02 PM
I agree with you all, Goes To Hell does throw it all off track. The evil spirit scenerio sucks-- unless there was an evil spirit in that lightening bolt. But if that is to written in a movie, it sounds pretty stupid.

this was just new line cinema picking the franchise up, and wanting to make it more like their baby, the nightmare on elm street series, if you ask me.

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Quote from: ToyMan on February 17, 2009, 11:24:55 PM
this was just new line cinema picking the franchise up, and wanting to make it more like their baby, the nightmare on elm street series, if you ask me.

Yeah they did pick it up didn't they. That explains it.
But then theres there's sort of a back-peddle with Jason X. X was pretty schlocky, I liked it after the first viewing though. Though I still wish they kept up with the "logic". However in Freddy Vs. Jason, to me it made sense that he was deranged Mama's boy out for vengence. But that's another back peddle from him being pure evil as in Goes to Hell.
New Line has tinkered with it too much.

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Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 17, 2009, 08:53:33 PM
Part 3 was a 3-D flick, which I'm sure was good on the big screen.

No.

It had two good parts: the opening credits, and the ending credits. What came between those sucked.

The poster you could buy after the movie that would work with the glasses you got with the movie was pretty cool though. Wish I still had mine.

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Quote from: Menaaard!!! on February 18, 2009, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 17, 2009, 08:53:33 PM
Part 3 was a 3-D flick, which I'm sure was good on the big screen.

No.

It had two good parts: the opening credits, and the ending credits. What came between those sucked.

The poster you could buy after the movie that would work with the glasses you got with the movie was pretty cool though. Wish I still had mine.
Hmm.  I figured on the big screen the 3-D element would have made it better.  I've never seen it in 3D.  Just on tv/dvd, where 3d has no influence over.  So I find it pretty laughable as a movie.  I liked part 4 though.  You can't get any better than part 4.
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Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 18, 2009, 09:38:36 AMHmm.  I figured on the big screen the 3-D element would have made it better.  I've never seen it in 3D.  Just on tv/dvd, where 3d has no influence over.  So I find it pretty laughable as a movie.

The problem was that it was a 3D movie, but without much to show for that. Not much was in the face of the audience, and what was didn't work all that well. They had a few elements that worked okay, but most of what little they used to take advantage of the 3D was gimmicky and just didn't flow well with the movie (not like there's really a lot of flow to an F13 movie, but interrupting one with a 'let's try this cheap effect' just makes it that much worse).

Perhaps I was jaded toward 3D movies as I had seen Comin' at Ya and that was a hell of a lot of fun. The audience was ducking, screaming, and having fun. Yes, there were gimmicks, but most of them worked well with the dime-novel storyline.

I guess I expected the 3D to work with F13 3D and instead found that the gimmicks got in the way.

Part 3 is important in the series; oddly enough, perhaps the most important from a development standpoint. It introduces the mask (actually taken from Bleeder from Alone in the Dark), Jason's 'handyman' type of outfit, (Jason's new style of dress resembles Bleeder as well), and Jason's stalker without a home existence.

Part 2 introduced Jason, and was probably the best of the series (it would get my vote), but Part 3 creates Jason and what would follow.

It is too bad that they did not shoot alternative scenes for a non-3D version that would hold up better.

Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 18, 2009, 09:38:36 AMI liked part 4 though.  You can't get any better than part 4.

:lookingup:

Try parts 1, 2, 6, 7 (that's kind of pushing it), Jason Goes to Hell, and X.

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Quote from: Nukie 2 on February 17, 2009, 11:34:45 PM
Quote from: ToyMan on February 17, 2009, 11:24:55 PM
this was just new line cinema picking the franchise up, and wanting to make it more like their baby, the nightmare on elm street series, if you ask me.

Yeah they did pick it up didn't they. That explains it.
But then theres there's sort of a back-peddle with Jason X.

well, that's because jason x was produced by a different group, crystal lake entertainment. they had an agreement to where they could take the characters and imagery associated with the franchise, make a movie with their own money, on their own time, and then when they were done, come back to new line with it, and cash in.

WilliamWeird1313

Oh, thank freakin' GAWD some folks are agreein' with me that this movie sucked! Virtually every blog and message board review I've read of this sucker has had nothin' but good things to say. I thought for a second there that everyone in the world had turned into an idiot. What a piece of crap this flick was. Even for a Friday The 13th. Leave it to that T.C.M.-killer himself, Marcus Nispel, to churn out this unbelievable hunk of garbage. Seriously, I'm not too hard to please. I liked Jason X for christsakes (admittedly in a "so bad it's good" kind of way). But this movie was just so "so bad it's really, really bad" and that's all. Not only was it laborious, but it also thought it was more brutal, dark, and smart than it actually was. Worst of all though, it was just generic as all hell. Really, there was nothing about it that MADE it a Friday The 13th movie. Nothing special. Nothing unique. Neither hide nor hair of flair or flourish. This could have been any uninspired horror movie sitting on the Blockbuster "straight to D.V.D." rack. Take away Jason's hockey mask and you could've changed the title to Wrong Turn 3 and no one would have ever known. For crap's sake, you could've given him a Nixon mask and called this flick "I Am Not A Crook" and it'd would've scarcely made even a marginal difference.
Thank god I got in free to see this.
Of course, I will say that the movie pretty much met all my expectation. But that's only because my expectations were so damn low.
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Quote from: Menaaard!!! on February 18, 2009, 11:53:22 AM




Try parts 1, 2, 6, 7 (that's kind of pushing it), Jason Goes to Hell, and X.
Well, F13 part 1 was the best of the series.

As far as the sequels go, my personal favorites are actually 4, 6, 8 and X.  I didn't care as much for 5, 7, or 9, although I will watch the dvd's on occasion.  And it's not even that I don't like them either.  I personally just don't like them as much as the others.  Actually, when selecting which one I will watch at any given time, the only one I'll actually avoid is Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday.  That was s**t on a stick if I ever saw it.
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I was disappointed that they didn't have a Crazy Ralph type character in the remake though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3CaYYEkGXI
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Quote from: Torgo on February 18, 2009, 10:22:55 PM
I was disappointed that they didn't have a Crazy Ralph type character in the remake though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3CaYYEkGXI
Supposedly there were some scenes filmed with one.  But for whatever reason, they were edited out.  Don't know if it's true.  If it is true, maybe they'll be on dvd.
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Quote from: Menaaard!!! on February 18, 2009, 11:53:22 AM
Part 2 introduced Jason, and was probably the best of the series (it would get my vote), but Part 3 creates Jason and what would follow.

Uh-oh, 'Nard and I agree on Part 2 being the best of the F13 movies?! Didn't Nostradamus predict this as one of the signs of armageddon? :tongueout:

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My personal favorite of the series is probably The Final Chapter with Jason Lives coming in a close second.  Jason is just plain vicious in part 4.  Plus we also got exposed to Crispin Glover's dance abilities.
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Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 18, 2009, 10:00:33 PM
Quote from: Menaaard!!! on February 18, 2009, 11:53:22 AM




Try parts 1, 2, 6, 7 (that's kind of pushing it), Jason Goes to Hell, and X.
Well, F13 part 1 was the best of the series.

As far as the sequels go, my personal favorites are actually 4, 6, 8 and X.  I didn't care as much for 5, 7, or 9, although I will watch the dvd's on occasion.  And it's not even that I don't like them either.  I personally just don't like them as much as the others.  Actually, when selecting which one I will watch at any given time, the only one I'll actually avoid is Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday.  That was s**t on a stick if I ever saw it.

I must be the only person on Earth who enjoyed JASON GOES TO HELL.  :bluesad:
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Quote from: RCMerchant on February 20, 2009, 06:42:55 AM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on February 18, 2009, 10:00:33 PM
Quote from: Menaaard!!! on February 18, 2009, 11:53:22 AM




Try parts 1, 2, 6, 7 (that's kind of pushing it), Jason Goes to Hell, and X.
Well, F13 part 1 was the best of the series.

As far as the sequels go, my personal favorites are actually 4, 6, 8 and X.  I didn't care as much for 5, 7, or 9, although I will watch the dvd's on occasion.  And it's not even that I don't like them either.  I personally just don't like them as much as the others.  Actually, when selecting which one I will watch at any given time, the only one I'll actually avoid is Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday.  That was s**t on a stick if I ever saw it.

I must be the only person on Earth who enjoyed JASON GOES TO HELL.  :bluesad:
Yeah...I know it was a rip-off of the HIDDEN.....

I dug it! One of my personal favorites from the series.
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