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Is there such a thing as a "Good" X-rated film?

Started by WyreWizard, December 05, 2009, 09:39:52 PM

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WyreWizard

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Hmm, this has been one of my more interesting posts.  I thank you all for your suggestions, comments and insights.

Now I have to admit that I am a thinking man.  My thoughts run so deep that if they were an ocean even the greatest submarine in the world would collapse under the crushing pressure of its greatest depths.  When I watch a film, I tend to think a lot and analyze it a lot.  As you all know, I find faults with every film I see, even adult films.  When I watch an adult film, I like to see women undressed and learn a thing or two from the sex scenes.  I've often thought about what an adult film would be like if I wrote the script, the plot, be the producer, hired the directors, actors and actresses.  My films would highlight the natural beauty of the feminine form and would show sex scenes that would inspire people to try new stuff.  And unlike 99% of adult films out there, I would encorage the actors and actresses to perform to the point of orgasm to make it as real as possible.  I would hire actors and actresses of various age ranges and ethnicities because I know my audience would have certain tastes.  I would hire actresses of various body forms.  But for big-breasted actresses I wouldn't hire any actress who's had breat augmentation.  Because you can tell if any woman has had breast augmentation and it never looks pretty.  My films would also include some of the more bizarre stuff like pregnant women (which I am ashamed to admit I find erotic) and sadomasochism.

I thought about creating a company for such a thing and calling it Platinum Erotica.
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AndyC

The problem with that is that for all the extra time and money, it's not going to sell any better than the crappy porn. At least, not enough to be justified financially. There's a good reason most pornos are crappy movies - people will buy them whether they're good or not. All the average porn buyer wants is people doing things that turn them on, and for most people, that's not too difficult. Most pornos are made quickly and cheaply, and distributed as efficiently as possible (the porn industry pioneered video on demand) to people who will snap up anything that fits their personal preference. Trying to make a quality porno might well increase sales, but it's most likely going to decrease profit.

Pornos don't cover up their shortcomings with sex every five minutes. They dress up their sex with the thin pretense of a story. And if you look at some of the amateur stuff that is selling online, you might not even need that.

Not to be mean, WW, but for somebody so hung up on realism, you're not very realistic.
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joejoeherron

as asked earlier, some of the seduction cinema films are good, some are bad. for a decent comedy with boobs, I would have to recommend,
1. lord of the g-string
2. american idle (the ozzy parody steals the show)


for more (adult) movies,the late 70's to early 80's x-rated films do have some story lines, some. My favorite is " Never so Deep". it's made by the same gut who did deepthroat. Bit of trivia, in one scene of "Never so Deep" the theme/action music is the long version of the original "People's Court"  opening music.

Flick James

Quote from: joejoeherron on May 06, 2010, 04:37:09 AM
as asked earlier, some of the seduction cinema films are good, some are bad. for a decent comedy with boobs, I would have to recommend,
1. lord of the g-string
2. american idle (the ozzy parody steals the show)


for more (adult) movies,the late 70's to early 80's x-rated films do have some story lines, some. My favorite is " Never so Deep". it's made by the same gut who did deepthroat. Bit of trivia, in one scene of "Never so Deep" the theme/action music is the long version of the original "People's Court"  opening music.

Lord of the G-String. Wow. I watched that once on late-night cable and what a riot. Absolutely ridiuculous.
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You know, I haven't seen it, but I believe there was this film called Pirates that, for a porno, actually a real plot and a rather high budget and a bunch CGI smacked between the sex scenes.  It was like a rip off/parody/homage to Pirates of the Caribbean.  I think they even did an R rated version of the film for general distribution.

Anyone heard of this or am I losing my mind?

Ah, here it is!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_%282005_film%29
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voltron

"Sodomania: Pure Filth":wink: Much to my dismay, my VCR ate the tape. Personally, I think a "good" x-rated film should be unscripted and as nasty as possible, but I gather that's not what you're looking for. I have a movie called Pretty Little Asians that's a good example of a BAD X-rated film. The girls weren't much to look at (usually I can tolerate that), and the sex scenes were pitiful - the stars of the movie looked like they were half asleep when they were doing the deed. It was just plain BOOORING as hell - something a porno should never be.
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metalmonster

I Was Browsing Adult Dvds Recently And Saw Something Interesting

They Made An XXX Ripoff Of RE-ANIMATOR

It Was Called RE-PENETRATOR :bouncegiggle:


.....I Haven't Seen It But It Sounds Funny

Chainsawmidget

Quote from: metalmonster on May 11, 2010, 01:16:51 PM
I Was Browsing Adult Dvds Recently And Saw Something Interesting

They Made An XXX Ripoff Of RE-ANIMATOR

It Was Called RE-PENETRATOR :bouncegiggle:


.....I Haven't Seen It But It Sounds Funny
Often times, the title is the best part of those kind of movies. 

... or, ya' know, so I've heard.   :wink:

Celx

I can only name one at the moment:

1). Fritz the cat

vukxfiles

I don't know if Midnight Cowboy had an X rating.

Rev. Powell

Quote from: vukxfiles on May 23, 2010, 01:18:12 PM
I don't know if Midnight Cowboy had an X rating.

It did when released, I think it may have been reclassified as "R" since. 
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joejoeherron

Quote from: Rev. Powell on May 23, 2010, 05:40:49 PM
Quote from: vukxfiles on May 23, 2010, 01:18:12 PM
I don't know if Midnight Cowboy had an X rating.

It did when released, I think it may have been reclassified as "R" since. 


Didn't Midnight Cowboy win Best Picture when it came out?

vukxfiles

Quote from: joejoeherron on May 24, 2010, 04:46:26 AM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on May 23, 2010, 05:40:49 PM
Quote from: vukxfiles on May 23, 2010, 01:18:12 PM
I don't know if Midnight Cowboy had an X rating.

It did when released, I think it may have been reclassified as "R" since. 


Didn't Midnight Cowboy win Best Picture when it came out?

Yes, but the stupid goodie-two-shoes MPAA gave it an X-rating.

JaseSF

I think the first two 50s Quatermass films may actually have been given an X-rating in Britain. Certainly no sex in them though as far as I can tell anyways (there is a kind of alien entity merging I guess you could argue).
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Rev. Powell

Quote from: vukxfiles on May 24, 2010, 04:57:22 AM
Quote from: joejoeherron on May 24, 2010, 04:46:26 AM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on May 23, 2010, 05:40:49 PM
Quote from: vukxfiles on May 23, 2010, 01:18:12 PM
I don't know if Midnight Cowboy had an X rating.

It did when released, I think it may have been reclassified as "R" since. 


Didn't Midnight Cowboy win Best Picture when it came out?

Yes, but the stupid goodie-two-shoes MPAA gave it an X-rating.

The X rating had quite a different meaning in the late 1960s, it was basically equivalent to a "R" or "NC-17" rating today.  It wasn't intended for hardcore porn (because they didn't have any at the time.)
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