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Started by hellbilly, December 28, 2009, 02:01:16 AM

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Mr. DS

I don't like dogs...sorry all but I figured might as well get that out there if I haven't already.  :bluesad:
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Joe the Destroyer

Quote from: vik on May 12, 2010, 05:18:24 PM
Quote from: Sleepyskull on May 12, 2010, 05:05:30 PM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on May 12, 2010, 04:24:04 PM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.

I never thought about it, but I agree for the most part.   
I don't  :twirl:

Neither do I, for the most part, but it really depends on the situation and the person.  Some of the people I've heard in public who use "f**king" as every other word just bother me.  I see it more as a sign that someone feels more laid back or casual in their surroundings. 

Trevor

Quote from: Doggett on April 24, 2010, 07:41:07 AM
I like Sharon Stone.

I do too, but I must tell you my story of what happened to her on the set of King Solomon's Mines here sometime.  :buggedout: :buggedout:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

Mr. DS

I personally feel Trevor's underpants aren't nearly as bad smelling as he claims they are.   :teddyr:
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Trevor

Quote from: The DarkSider on May 13, 2010, 11:38:47 AM
I personally feel Trevor's underpants aren't nearly as bad smelling as he claims they are.   :teddyr:

Have you been talking to my Mom, DS? :wink: :wink:
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Rev. Powell

Quote from: Joe the Destroyer on May 13, 2010, 02:52:30 AM
Quote from: vik on May 12, 2010, 05:18:24 PM
Quote from: Sleepyskull on May 12, 2010, 05:05:30 PM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on May 12, 2010, 04:24:04 PM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.

I never thought about it, but I agree for the most part.   
I don't  :twirl:

Neither do I, for the most part, but it really depends on the situation and the person.  Some of the people I've heard in public who use "f**king" as every other word just bother me.  I see it more as a sign that someone feels more laid back or casual in their surroundings. 

I didn't really make it clear that I was specifically thinking about writing (message board posts, blog posts, youtube and Amazon comments, and even "serious" articles) rather than everyday speech.  There is a difference between casually saying it among a group of friends and actually taking the extra time to write it out in a sentence when it adds nothing to the meaning.  I think we should write better and more grammatically then we talk in everyday conversation. 
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The Gravekeeper

Quote from: Rev. Powell on May 13, 2010, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Joe the Destroyer on May 13, 2010, 02:52:30 AM
Quote from: vik on May 12, 2010, 05:18:24 PM
Quote from: Sleepyskull on May 12, 2010, 05:05:30 PM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on May 12, 2010, 04:24:04 PM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.

I never thought about it, but I agree for the most part.   
I don't  :twirl:

Neither do I, for the most part, but it really depends on the situation and the person.  Some of the people I've heard in public who use "f**king" as every other word just bother me.  I see it more as a sign that someone feels more laid back or casual in their surroundings. 

I didn't really make it clear that I was specifically thinking about writing (message board posts, blog posts, youtube and Amazon comments, and even "serious" articles) rather than everyday speech.  There is a difference between casually saying it among a group of friends and actually taking the extra time to write it out in a sentence when it adds nothing to the meaning.  I think we should write better and more grammatically then we talk in everyday conversation. 

This. I personally use it only when it's appropriate (like if I'm actually angry or if there's no other way to truly convey my feelings on the subject), but some of the characters I write do use it casually. I experimented with one character who swears casually to see what they'd sound like with a clean mouth and it just came out really unnatural and awkward for them. In that particular case casual swearing worked for them, but they're the only character in that work who really does it. It really doesn't work for most characters, and it tends to sound even worse when there's a whole group of them.

AndyC

I've known too many people who toss in F words as filler, because they can talk faster than they can collect their thoughts. Clean their speech up and it would just slow and stammering and full of pauses. It's no different from saying "umm" or "like" every second word, only it sounds cooler in certain company.
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Newt

Quote from: Rev. Powell on May 13, 2010, 02:30:41 PM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.
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I didn't really make it clear that I was specifically thinking about writing (message board posts, blog posts, youtube and Amazon comments, and even "serious" articles) rather than everyday speech.  There is a difference between casually saying it among a group of friends and actually taking the extra time to write it out in a sentence when it adds nothing to the meaning.  I think we should write better and more grammatically then we talk in everyday conversation. 

:thumbup:

Why do they make the effort to add completely extraneous words when the tendency in 'written' communication has been toward economising on keystrokes?  That is what I cannot quite fathom.  It would seem to imply that the presence of the word in question bears some strong significance to the writer.  In which case, yes indeed it does reflect on the writer more than on the meaning.   :wink:

Quote from: AndyC on May 16, 2010, 06:21:55 AM
I've known too many people who toss in F words as filler, because they can talk faster than they can collect their thoughts. Clean their speech up and it would just slow and stammering and full of pauses. It's no different from saying "umm" or "like" every second word, only it sounds cooler in certain company.

Good point.  It may 'grease' the verbal process, but in such cases surely a few thoughtful pauses might prove beneficial?   :twirl:
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Saucerman

I don't care if a woman shaves her legs or not.  If she chooses to, that's fine, if not, no biggie. 

Rev. Powell

Quote from: AndyC on May 16, 2010, 06:21:55 AM
I've known too many people who toss in F words as filler, because they can talk faster than they can collect their thoughts. Clean their speech up and it would just slow and stammering and full of pauses. It's no different from saying "umm" or "like" every second word, only it sounds cooler in certain company.

I agree about f**king being filler.  The use of "like" was one of the analogies that came to my mind, except that people only use it in writing to deliberately make the speaker sound vapid.  No one would add in meaningless "likes" if they were speaking in their own voice. 
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Leah

Creepshow is NOT an R-rated movie, it should be a PG-13 movie.
yeah no.

Mr. DS

Dug this thread up because I just thought of this one.  I have NEVER found The Peanuts entertaining in any form whether it be comic strip or annimated television.  I respect Mr. Schultz's lifetime work but just don't get it. 
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The Gravekeeper

Unlike apparently a good chunk of the internet, I don't care a lick about "Talk Like a Pirate Day." Anyone who actually tries to apply it to the real world will sound like a complete idiot if they try it in a setting where no one else is doing it (eg- the majority of public and work spaces). Also, the internet killed off most of the "cool" pirates had, along with ninja, robots, monkeys, and zombies.

Leah

I hate the war between Graves and Danzig of the Misfits to be total BS. They're good and lets keep it at that!
yeah no.