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Movies where the bad guy(s) win(s) at the end

Started by retrorussell, June 13, 2010, 11:21:43 PM

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Intruder. The bad guy dies BUT there's a very funny twist ending...

wickednick

Heres one to scratch your heads over could The Empire Strikes Back fit in this category. Darth Vader cuts Lukes hand off and while Luke gets away its just barely. Boba Fett takes Han Solo and Lando loses his city.
Smells like popcorn and shame

ulthar

THE THING

The creature was not really a 'bad guy,' but the 'good guys' did not win.
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HorrorFreak

Quote from: Allhallowsday on June 14, 2010, 08:42:01 PM
Quote from: HorrorFreak on June 14, 2010, 02:08:33 AM
I think that in the most of zombie movies, the zombies allways win in the end.
Like Dawn of the Dead, Zombie 2, The Dead Next Door...
As suggested by myself above, in NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD, the "bad guys" are us and they "win" in the end.  This point is made much clearer in TOM SAVINI's 1990 remake. 

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I think that Friday the 13th series can be included in the list.
Jason never dies, excluding the fact that in the end of every part, someone kills him, in the sequel he's alive again.
He's even back from the dead!  :teddyr:

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Quote from: wyckednick on June 15, 2010, 07:15:51 AM
Heres one to scratch your heads over could The Empire Strikes Back fit in this category. Darth Vader cuts Lukes hand off and while Luke gets away its just barely. Boba Fett takes Han Solo and Lando loses his city.

Yeah, I wondered about that one too.  I think overall it's kind of a stalemate, Vader doesn't actually get Luke, but the good guys are in pretty rough shape too.  It's a great cliffhanger at any rate :)

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jimmybob

Quote from: ulthar on June 15, 2010, 07:20:24 AM
THE THING

The creature was not really a 'bad guy,' but the 'good guys' did not win.

What do you mean? We're led to believe that the creature was destroyed, do you think that either McGreedy or the black guy were infected?

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Sleepyskull

Quote from: jimmybob on June 15, 2010, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: ulthar on June 15, 2010, 07:20:24 AM
THE THING

The creature was not really a 'bad guy,' but the 'good guys' did not win.

What do you mean? We're led to believe that the creature was destroyed, do you think that either McGreedy or the black guy were infected?

-Jimmybob


Whether or not they were infected wasn't the only issue at that point.  If I remember correctly their base and supplies had all been destroyed, they had no transportation, no way to communicate, and their next contact with people wasn't scheduled for a few weeks.  They were also in Antarctica, so they knew they would die from cold eventually. To top it all off it was nighttime, so it was probably colder than usual even.  The chances of somebody stumbling upon them was incredibly low.
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Jim H

The Great Silence.  Pretty extreme in that regard.

I'd have to go ahead and disagree on Scanners.  What happened to the main character sucks, but he's still alive and the bad guy isn't.

Rev. Powell

Not a bad movie, but the first thing I thought of was CHINATOWN.  A damn chilling ending.
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Jim H

Thinking some more, I'd say The Dark Knight qualifies.  There's really only one significant victory for the "Good guys" in the film, and the final victory goes to the Joker.

InformationGeek

Although it has been mentioned, Funny Games.  That one stands out to me the most of all the films.  The frickin' bad guys cheated!  If no other character in any other movie can use a remote control to fix things, then these a-holes shouldn't be allowed to do it either.  It ruins the movie.

Revenge of the Sith ends pretty badly, although Obi-Wan and Yoda did survive ultimately.  Wicker Man is another example that pops into mind.  Manos: The Hands of Fate is another example, though I'm still confused at just what happened in general.

It's not a movie, but a lot of the endings of When They Cry (Most events of the show loop over and over, changing all the time) have very notable bad guys winning situtions.  The Cotten Drifting one is my favorite.

A very interesting one is The Sidehackers.  What a freakin' load, especially after such a very depressing and extremely boring movie.  Was not my kind of pay off, even though I was watching the MST3K verison.

In general, I really dislike films where the bad guys win.  I just don't like how the bad guys get away with things.  Hell, I could settle with a bittersweet ending where the good guys die but the bad guys still get what they have coming to them.

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vukxfiles

I love movies where the bad guys win, because they are more realistic, and unexpected. I would love to see a spiderman or other superhero movie where the villain wins and the hero dies. I hate seeing stupid spiderman win all the time, I'D KILL HIM MYSELF IF I COULD!

HorrorFreak

Quote from: vukxfiles on June 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
I love movies where the bad guys win, because they are more realistic, and unexpected. I would love to see a spiderman or other superhero movie where the villain wins and the hero dies. I hate seeing stupid spiderman win all the time, I'D KILL HIM MYSELF IF I COULD!

You can't kill Superman, he's invulnerable! Haha! Just kidding.
I definately agree with you. Imagine Venom  killing Spiderman for example... Now that would rule!

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Quote from: ulthar on June 15, 2010, 07:20:24 AM
THE THING
The creature was not really a 'bad guy,' but the 'good guys' did not win.
Not really a bad guy?  Uhm... if THE THING comes to Earth again, he/shee-It can live next door to you.   :wink:

Quote from: jimmybob on June 15, 2010, 12:28:48 PMWhat do you mean? We're led to believe that the creature was destroyed, do you think that either McGreedy or the black guy were infected?
I think we're led to wonder if THE THING was destroyed... and you didn't ask me, but I'll pipe in anyway with: I don't think they're infected, but neither is sure of the other, nor is the audience.  I love that movie.  

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