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Egypt is falling

Started by lester1/2jr, January 28, 2011, 10:32:43 AM

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lester1/2jr

balls to the wall. Suez and Alexandria totally overtaken by potesters. Cairo, the main city, in chaos. live shots being fired on tv.

Doggett

Its all over the telly, but it isn't as intense as the Tunisia protests.
                                             

If God exists, why did he make me an atheist? Thats His first mistake.

lester1/2jr

it is and is going to be alot more complicated than that.

Couchtr26

Yes, there is some trouble for the US.  If I'm not mistaken the US was allied with their current leader and it wouldn't look good for us with whatever new group takes command.  In addition, Egypt holds quite a bit of media and clout in the Arab world, (I believe that is correct).  Even if the protesters are defeated, it will not end well for many and create a new diplomatic thorn in many sides. 
Ah, the good old days.

lester1/2jr

I'm happy for them. could care less about the US's position in all of it.

Couchtr26

I understand your point but it does create implications that will be far reaching.   
Ah, the good old days.

Rev. Powell

Interesting.  Egypt is a much bigger fish than Tunisia---if I had to bet, I would guess these riots end up more like the ones in Iran.  The one thing that gives the revolution some hope is that Mubarak is getting old and doesn't seem to have overwhelming support from within his own government.  Still, it always seems like the biggest possibility is another strongman comes to power who promises reform at first and then slips into old despotic habits as his power grows.
I'll take you places the hand of man has not yet set foot...

lester1/2jr

couh - I hear ye

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

lol Hillary. she's like do I have to say something?

lester1/2jr

momentum has kept up. I'm pretty cynical but it's hard to see how things could go back to normal in many respects now.


Couchtr26

It is seeming like he will have no choice but to step down at some point.  He would create far too much resentment to allow any kind of major police action. 
Ah, the good old days.

lester1/2jr

he has no authority now. the people are out in the streets in violation of a curfew he ordered.

Couchtr26

Yeah, I'm catching up slowly on a little break here at work.  As I thought, he will have to step down.  He has no ability to control.  What remains of police forces, etc. will quickly join the rebels in short order.  Few will continue to fight against a hopeless tide in my eyes. 
Ah, the good old days.

indianasmith

Latest news is that Mubarak has dismissed his entire government and is going to replace them - I doubt that will stem the tide.  There seem to be two factions vying for control at the moment - the token leader of the resistance is a moderate reformer, but the vile terrorist group the Muslim Brotherhood wields a lot of power on the streets and seems to be pulling some strings.  The last thing we need is another Middle Eastern country taken over by Islamist radicals.  Once more, I see, Lester seems to care less about America's interests.  What a surprise.  If a general Mideastern war breaks out, I wonder which side he will cheer for?
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

Couchtr26

Quote from: indianasmith on January 28, 2011, 06:40:00 PM
Muslim Brotherhood

Last time I checked they were more trying to get a part of it and not doing so well as they were seen as reacting rather being in on the beginning. 
Ah, the good old days.

lester1/2jr

indiana- my interest is that the egyptian people not live under oppresion. our governments is that they continue to. So the less said about the latter the better I think.

QuoteIf a general Mideastern war breaks out, I wonder which side he will cheer for?

the side of self determination and liberty. mainly the side of us not giving them 2 billion a year and cover for them to oppress their people.

QuoteThe last thing we need is another Middle Eastern country taken over by Islamist radicals.

I can't believe what a jerk I am for cheering on the people of Egypt as they get rid of a dictator they've had for 30 years! I am so heartless.