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Thoughts on celibacy?

Started by Trevor, February 20, 2011, 12:58:25 PM

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Trevor

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Quote from: indianasmith on February 20, 2011, 02:49:25 PM
I was celibate until marriage.  It was the most difficult thing I ever did, but  one thing I am most proud of.

I only lost my virginity - at age 36! - when I was in a committed relationship.

QuoteTrevor, we need to find you a mate - preferably human, but a Vulcan female would be OK too.  Maybe we could do some sort of bachelor auction.

:teddyr: :teddyr:

Let me see................

T'Pring: too cold.
T'Pau: too old!  :buggedout:
Saavik 1 [Kirstie Alley]: yes please!  :smile:
T'Lar: Too small and too old: request for nookie is not logical: that was only done in ages past and then only in legend.  :wink:
Saavik 2 [Robin Curtis]: yes please!
Valeris: No sideburns, no sex appeal: so no boom boom with soul brother.  :buggedout: :buggedout:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

Trevor

Quote from: A Man Called Ed on February 20, 2011, 02:58:06 PM
But my friend, its more than bumpin uglies...

With me it will definitely be bumpin' uglies.....  :buggedout: :buggedout: :wink:

QuoteYou need a nice person to just spend time with.  You got some qualities old boy.Those need sharing.
-Ed

Awwww............. HUG
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

Trevor

We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

Trevor

Quote from: Newt on February 20, 2011, 04:17:06 PM
Is there someone it feels 'right' to be with? 

Yes, very definitely: a co-worker (unmarried, not in a relationship) as it happens.

QuoteHave you simply come to the point where you figure "why not?" ?  Or has the need to satisfy the itch/urge become a priority? 

I took a look at myself in the mirror a few days ago and realized that I'm getting old: I need to be someone's lover now before I get so old that they have to put a paper bag over my head in order not to puke while having boom-boom with soul brother.  :buggedout: :buggedout: :wink:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

Trevor

Quote from: SPazzo on February 20, 2011, 09:07:29 PM
I'm not going to talk about my personal experiences, just my opinion.  I am not so much against celibacy as I am against promiscuity.  As long as the person you are with means a LOT to you and you are willing to be with this person for the rest of your life, it shouldn't matter whether you are married or not (or not yet).  I'm not the biggest fan of getting together with a random person (or acquaintance) just for the sake of sex.

If that makes sense.

It does, thanks. If I choose to end my 'monk-ness' of the last seven years, I will and I will do so responsibly: no sowing wild oats or anything like that.
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

Killer Bees

I've always loved sex, sometimes to my own detriment.  I've gotten involved with men who were completely unsuitable, just so I could have someone to snuggle up to at night. 
But a few years ago, I was dumped by my then boyfriend of one year and I went into a tailspin.  I decided men were too much trouble and swore off them completely.

Normally I would be back on the scene within 3 months but one thing led to another and one day I realised it had been 4 years since I'd had any nookie.  Not even a hug or a handshake did I experience from a man.

It was the best thing I ever did.

It forced me to take a long hard look at myself and how I was behaving to the world in general and how I was treating myself (which wasn't very well).  So I did a lot of spiritual work on myself and started to be the kind of person that I wanted to attract.   That's when I met my current partner Sean   :teddyr:

I don't think celibacy is for everyone and people who voluntarily practice it - I take my hat off to you.  My own celibacy was quite unintentional and I'm not sure if I could do that again.  But I'm not actually having that much sex now even though Sean and I are together.  It's forced me to look at my  relationship with this man on a much deeper level than just sex.  Which is marvellous for me.

Everyone is different and I think you must be true to yourself ALWAYS, regardless of what pop culture tells you or your friends, or neighbours, or family.  Whatever is your choice is the correct one and you need to stick by that.
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Let your power shine
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Bring back what once was mine
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Change the fates' design
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Bring back what once was mine
What once was mine.......

Trevor

Quote from: Killer Bees on February 21, 2011, 05:49:12 AM
I decided men were too much trouble and swore off them completely.

People often ask me what the middle initial T in my name stands for: my standard answer is "Trouble".  :buggedout: :wink:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

AndyC

Quote from: vukxfiles on February 21, 2011, 07:24:42 AM
Sex is the most important thing in the world for all living organisms, because everything in biology is connected to reproduction. Evolution, survival, everything relies on sex. The most perfect organisms survive just to have a chance at reproducing and spreading their genes.

And masturbation is good, spilling seed is good, not god or religion can forbid what you do in your own privacy.

PS: I ahve a right to write what I want as long as it isn't flaming, so "F you" to everyone who says otherwise.

As a matter of fact, posting on this board is not a right. It's a privilege. A privilege that hinges on treating other people with respect.

If I may put on my moderator's hat for a moment, I'm going to ask you nicely to lose the belligerent tone, and stop dragging this particular fight into other threads.

I don't think many people on this board would disagree with your views on celibacy, if you took the chip off your shoulder and kept your comments relevant to the discussion at hand.
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vukxfiles

Wait, are you guys talking about abstinence from marriage or abstinance from sex?

If it is about marriage then I believe marriage is a hum,an invention, it doesn't exist in nature thus has no objective meaning whatsoever.

ulthar

Quote from: vukxfiles on February 21, 2011, 10:18:10 AM
Wait, are you guys talking about abstinence from marriage or abstinance from sex?

If it is about marriage then I believe marriage is a hum,an invention, it doesn't exist in nature thus has no objective meaning whatsoever.

Like usual, you have no clue what you are talking about.  There are many examples of animals that mate for life... "in nature."

But hey, never let facts get in the way of a good trolling...   :lookingup:
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vukxfiles

Quote from: ulthar on February 21, 2011, 11:28:16 AM
Quote from: vukxfiles on February 21, 2011, 10:18:10 AM
Wait, are you guys talking about abstinence from marriage or abstinance from sex?

If it is about marriage then I believe marriage is a hum,an invention, it doesn't exist in nature thus has no objective meaning whatsoever.

Like usual, you have no clue what you are talking about.  There are many examples of animals that mate for life... "in nature."

But hey, never let facts get in the way of a good trolling...   :lookingup:

Animals never marry. I wasn't talking about monogamy not existing in nature, I was talking about marriage. You can still be monogamous and not be married, by having one GIRLFRIEND for life. Marriage causes problems.

AndyC

OK, so you've gone from the reasonable position of sex being natural and healthy and good, to your usual stance that you want to be the centre of your own little universe, and you think science backs you up on it.

And the distinction between being married and shacking up for life is what is truly imaginary. Around here, and in many other countries, the law doesn't make that distinction. You live with somebody long enough, you're considered married whether you have a ceremony or not. I'm assuming you think having a girlfriend for life means you can take off and leave your family with nothing if things don't go your way. Besides being a fantasy, it shows you don't believe in monogamy at all, nor do you really understand what it is.

Now, I think we'd best get this thread back on topic.
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Newt

Quote from: Trevor on February 21, 2011, 03:17:15 AM
Quote from: Newt on February 20, 2011, 04:17:06 PM
Is there someone it feels 'right' to be with? 

Yes, very definitely: a co-worker (unmarried, not in a relationship) as it happens.

WOOT!  This made me  :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr:  Best news I have heard all week.   :thumbup:
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Doggett

Quote from: Newt on February 21, 2011, 02:18:54 PM
Quote from: Trevor on February 21, 2011, 03:17:15 AM
Quote from: Newt on February 20, 2011, 04:17:06 PM
Is there someone it feels 'right' to be with? 

Yes, very definitely: a co-worker (unmarried, not in a relationship) as it happens.

WOOT!  This made me  :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr:  Best news I have heard all week.   :thumbup:

Go get her !
She's only staying single for you, you delicious hunk of man !  :teddyr:
                                             

If God exists, why did he make me an atheist? Thats His first mistake.

Ed, Ego and Superego

"Yes, very definitely: a co-worker (unmarried, not in a relationship) as it happens."

Oy, I misread the unmarried tyo be married... and was full of woe on your behalf, I'm so glad I was wrong.
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