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Batman & Robin - The worst movie "ever made?"

Started by Robocop, April 19, 2011, 12:53:23 AM

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Robocop

I know there are heaps of bad films out there, some are guilty pleasures where as other have 0 redeeming qualities and are a struggle to get through. Batman & Robin had a budget of $140 million and we all know how terrible it was, but financially is it the biggest waste of money in film history. I mean its one thing to claim a film with a 10 times smaller budget to being the worst, but the money put it to B&R was literally wasted down the toilet. In my eyes this makes it the worst of the worst. Think of where that money could have gone.   

Robocop

Quote from: Dr. Strangelove on April 19, 2011, 01:03:57 AM
Quote from: Robocop on April 19, 2011, 12:53:23 AM
I know there are heaps of bad films out there, some are guilty pleasures where as other have 0 redeeming qualities and are a struggle to get through. Batman & Robin had a budget of $140 million and we all know how terrible it was, but financially is it the biggest waste of money in film history. I mean its one thing to claim a film with a 10 times smaller budget to being the worst, but the money put it to B&R was literally wasted down the toilet. In my eyes this makes it the worst of the worst. Think of where that money could have gone.   

Well, I agree that B&R was a waste of time and money, but then again there are a lot of movies that are as guilty of both. I mean, "Avatar" was a dull, predictable, utterly original effects fest that had little plot and boring characters, but it made a boatload of money.

Superman 4 sucked bigtime, and in some ways was worse that B&R but they didn't waste as much money on it.

TDTESS bastardization was a terrible movie and a gross insult to the original classic, and in some ways insulting and ripping off the original classic made it worse than B&R, who at least didn't steal a great movie's title!

Sure, B&R was trash for the reasons you cited. I'm not sure it was the worst movie ever made, though, as other movies are just as guilty of it's sins, and committed others as well.

Avatar despite its lack in creativity and poor script was a revolution in CGI and set the bar in 3D technology. I don't love it, but there are enough legitimate reasons for it not to be even close to crap like B&R even though it had a massive budget .

Excuse my ignorance but whats TDTESS?

Sure there are plenty of tittles worthy of that crown, but B&R comes to mind because not only is it a shocking film, but it was a very, very expensive one. 

Leah

wait, wasn't Cutthroat Island the biggest flop in history?
yeah no.

Chainsawmidget

Quote from: El Toro Loco on April 19, 2011, 07:22:58 AM
wait, wasn't Cutthroat Island the biggest flop in history?
I thought it was Waterworld. 

Personally, I dodn't even think Batman and Robin was a bad movie.  It felt like a nice update to the old Adam West series with a much bigger budget, and Clooney was a huge improvement over Kilmer.

dean

By normal standards Batman and Robin is pretty horrible [I didn't mind it so much though]

By our standards around these here parts, it is way better than the stuff we gladly subject ourselves to on a regular basis...

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akiratubo

Batman & Robin isn't that bad.  You don't even have to step outside the Batman franchise to find two movies that are much worse:  Batman Forever and Batman Begins.

Quote from: Chainsaw midget on April 19, 2011, 08:33:12 AMI thought it was Waterworld.

Waterworld was actually profitable.  Just barely, but it made more money than it cost.
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Mr. Gable

If we're talkin worst movie ever made...that goes to Manos: The Hands of Fate.

But worst movie with a budget: B&R takes it.

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QuoteExcuse my ignorance but whats TDTESS?

THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL.

Funny, I haven't seen that particular film abbreviated like that outside of the Bernard Herrmann website.

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The Burgomaster

One movie that doesn't get talked about much is Roman Polanski's PIRATES.  I'm pretty sure that one lost almost $40 million at the box office.  And let's not forget THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH, which I believe lost more than $90 million.

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Pluto Nash was way worse than B n' R, actually nearly every film Eddie Murphy has made in the last 10-15 years could be a better candidate for "worst film", that is, if we're talking profits and losses added into the mix also. I must say, I was bitterly disappointed with Batman Forever (even though I understood it was a nod back to the 60s series) when I went to see it in the cinema after all the good things Tim Burton did to enhance the Batman universe. But, I was even more appalled with Batman & Robin. Saying that though, B n' R now looks like a goddamn masterpiece to me when stack up against the steaming piles of crap currently playing in theaters worldwide....

bob

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It is without question one of the worst ever made. But it is thee worst, I think not. That distingtion, at least for me, goes to Freddy Got Fingered. That offended me as a kid and I liked The Tom Green Show back then.
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Leah

If we're talking the mula gained back, then Zyzzyx Road, since it only made $30 out of it's $2,000,000 budget?
yeah no.

Flick James

Quote from: El Toro Loco on April 19, 2011, 04:09:25 PM
If we're talking the mula gained back, then Zyzzyx Road, since it only made $30 out of it's $2,000,000 budget?

Well, I think you're comparing apples and roast beef here. Yes, it is the lowest box office gross of all time, but that's because it was released in a single theatre with no promotion to satisfy an agreement. The director wanted to release it in Europe before releasing it domestically, and that never happened. Since it was release on one screen with no promotion, I don't know if that counts when compared to widely released movies.
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Chainsawmidget

Let's look at some numbers. 

The Budget for Batman and Robin was $140 million. 
It made $107.3 million in North America and $130.9 million internationally bringing it to a toal of $238.2 million at the Box office, (that's not couting the fact that the movie also had merchandising out the whazoo.)

It made $42,872,605 the opening weekend making it the third best opening for that year. 

Considering that they got their money back and then some, I'd hardly consider it the biggest waste ever. 

Chainsawmidget

Quote from: Dr. Strangelove on April 19, 2011, 07:04:49 PM
Actually it is a standard abbreviation for it. (Why is abbreviation such a long word?)
Because it's ironic, you know, like rain on your wedding day.