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Batman & Robin - The worst movie "ever made?"

Started by Robocop, April 19, 2011, 12:53:23 AM

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66Crush

It isn't the worst movie ever, but it's the worst of the Batman movies. I can't stand George Clooney. I wish they could just CGI him out of "From Dusk 'til Dawn" an otherwise great movie.

indianasmith

Believe me, there are MANY, MANY worse movies.  Honestly, I thought that Uma Thurmann was quite fetching as Poison Ivy. 

Trust me - try sitting through BUNNYMAN, just to name ONE of my recent viewings, and you will find B&R positively entertaining afterwards!! LOL
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Doggett

Its bad.

Its aimed too much at chidren and not anyone else. Its like they (Warner Bros) tried to go for 60's fun but failed.

Batman Returns was a bit of a dissapointmen for WB and when Forever took more at the box office, they just assumed that it was because of the lighter tone. So they went even lighter...

My personal dissapointment was Poison Ivy. I just don't see whats so great about Uma Thurman. And what was with her strange hair in that flick?
                                             

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Quote from: El Toro Loco on April 19, 2011, 07:22:58 AM
wait, wasn't Cutthroat Island the biggest flop in history?

Cleopatra (1963) is known for the biggest flop in film history...



The problem with Batman and Robin is the intent of the film to make a campy 1960's Batman movie while using the crapy 1990 clothing with new actors. I personally didnt like it but a real Batman fan of the campy 1960's show explained to be how cool the Batman and Robin film was and why most people didnt get it.

Kaseykockroach

Personally, I never cared for the Batman comics, 60's Batman, 90's Batman, recent Batman, or the Batman cartoons (though the original at least had Jack Nicholson).
But that's just me. :P
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melvinthemopboy3

Yeah I personally think that Batman & Robin isn't completely terrible. It's pretty clear that they were going for a campy, 60s vibe. Even down to the bizarre villain stunt-casting of Arnold as Freeze. The terrible puns, the bat credit card. One of the best references in the film is Poison Ivy's dance with the gorilla costume on, a reference to Josef von Sternberg's Blonde Venus, a notoriously excessive and campy film.

Not that I'm saying Batman & Robin is a classic or anything, but I think it's rap as the "worst movie ever" is fairly undeserved. I would say that even Batman Forever is worse. Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face is one of the worst casting choices made in a comic book movie.

Vik

I still consider it the worst thing I ever saw, even before it got it's notorious "Worst movie ever" status. But I can see someone not sharing that opinion.

Ed, Ego and Superego

I do not like it, to me it was sort of obvious there was no love for the source material.  It wasn't BAD, just sort of phoned in by someone who didn't much care or like it.
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JaseSF

Sure it's awful but you know it felt more like Batman to me than Nolan's films....
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Mofo Rising

I'm going to jump in here.

I won't touch the "worst movie ever made" argument, because even the worst Batman movie is better than a lot of movies out there. There are movies out there that will make you want to kill yourself in their awfulness. Batman and Robin may be bad, but it's just ordinary bad, not despair for the hope of humanity bad like some movies get to.

Here's the thing about Batman, he's been around so long that his characterization has changed drastically. My favorite Batman is the one that is generally accepted today. Batman is the man who can do anything. He is the pinnacle of human perfection, and a man who is tormented into fighting a one-man fight for justice for everybody.

Here's the best thing about Batman, in my favorite version. He's trained for years to be the best fighter, but he's also always the smartest guy in the room. And he's a pragmatist. There's no reason to try and figure out the Joker's latest convoluted death trap when you can just punch the Joker in the head.

I love the Christopher Nolan films. I think they're the best version of this Batman I've seen.

It does amuse me that the Tim Burton films are held in such high regard, and that the later Schumacher films are so reviled. Not to burst anybody's bubble, but the Burton films are not very good. Go back and watch them and count the number of times Batman just stands around and gets shot.

There isn't that much difference between Burton's Batman and Schumacher's. Don't get me wrong, they're both execrable, but Tim Burton should not be remembered for his Batman movies. They're bad versions of Batman.

(If you think I'm being to harsh, I loved Tim Burton's Batman when it first came out. I thought it was really cool.)
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Quote from: Chainsaw midget on April 19, 2011, 08:33:12 AM
Quote from: El Toro Loco on April 19, 2011, 07:22:58 AM
wait, wasn't Cutthroat Island the biggest flop in history?
I thought it was Waterworld. 
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Quote from: Allhallowsday on July 06, 2011, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: Chainsaw midget on April 19, 2011, 08:33:12 AM
Quote from: El Toro Loco on April 19, 2011, 07:22:58 AM
wait, wasn't Cutthroat Island the biggest flop in history?
I thought it was Waterworld. 
And let's not forget HEAVEN'S GATE

No, no.  The biggest flop is Delgo.  That film cost $40 million to make and only made $694,782.  Ouch.
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Here are what I consider to be the worst films of all time. By that I mean there is nothing of value in any of them to any person of any age. Of course, the list is compromised of only movies that I have seen.

The Beast of Yucca Flats (1961)
Monster A Go-Go (1965)
Caligula (1979)
North (1994)
Baby Geniuses (1999)
Battlefield Earth (2000)
Freddy Got Fingered (2001)
Gigli (2003)
Epic Movie (2007)
Disaster Movie (2008)
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