Bill Cosby . . . a Rapist????

[Javakoala]

I don't know what to think on this still - the charges span decades, come from a variety of sources, and all allege a similar pattern of behavior.
One or two gold diggers I could see - but fifteen?  Even if one or two of them are bogus claims, I don't see how ALL of them could be.

Never underestimate the cult of money-grubbing.

But, yeah, I have to wonder as well. Lost Robin Williams to suicide and now this? There isn't ANYTHING worth believing in anymore.

[lester1/2jr]

I didn't really buy him as a firefighter though. maybe a lesbian firefighter, he's not rugged looking at all

[Allhallowsday]

"... the pros and cons of Bill Cosby being naughty." 

This bugged me for awhile: "naughty"?      

[Mofo Rising]

It makes me sad, because if you're a huge comedy nerd like I am, Cosby is incredible. He is a comedy legend.

That being said, if the allegations are true, and they seem very true, f**k that guy.  His legacy deserves to be f**ked. a***ole.

[Derf]

I don't know what to think about this. Sadly, even if every woman's claim was proven to be completely fabricated, and all the evidence was shown to the public that completely exonerated Cosby, people would still treat him as if he were guilty. Public cases like this are never erased, and the accused are never looked at in the same way again. Look at the Fatty Arbuckle case. Look at anyone ever accused of any sexual crime.

If Cosby is indeed guilty, he should of course pay for his crimes. If he is not, any semblance of a normal life is over for him.

[Allhallowsday]

Wow.  
BILL COSBY is a RAPIST.  Now BEVERLY JOHNSON has come forward.  Wow.  He is a predator.  

Bill Cosby Drugged Me. This Is My Story.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2014/12/bill-cosby-beverly-johnson-story

[Javakoala]

"... the pros and cons of Bill Cosby being naughty." 

This bugged me for awhile: "naughty"?      

Until it is proven he IS a rapist, the least that can be said is that he was most likely promiscuous. If it is proven, would it make you happy if I changed that to "a filthy rat-bastard rapist"?

[RCMerchant]

"... the pros and cons of Bill Cosby being naughty." 

This bugged me for awhile: "naughty"?      

Until it is proven he IS a rapist, the least that can be said is that he was most likely promiscuous. If it is proven, would it make you happy if I changed that to "a filthy rat-bastard rapist"?

I can understand what Hallows is saying-rape is not "naughty'.Rape is EVIL. If he was accused of murder-would you use the term "naughty"?
"Naughty" is what a little kid does when he sneaks cookies out of the jar. "Naughty" is not how you describe rape-whether he is guilty or not-rape is not "naughty."

[Javakoala]

"... the pros and cons of Bill Cosby being naughty." 

This bugged me for awhile: "naughty"?      

Until it is proven he IS a rapist, the least that can be said is that he was most likely promiscuous. If it is proven, would it make you happy if I changed that to "a filthy rat-bastard rapist"?

I can understand what Hallows is saying-rape is not "naughty'.Rape is EVIL. If he was accused of murder-would you use the term "naughty"?
"Naughty" is what a little kid does when he sneaks cookies out of the jar. "Naughty" is not how you describe rape-whether he is guilty or not-rape is not "naughty."

I understand what he's saying as well. But I don't believe in calling a person something he hasn't been proven to be.

If I had said, "Rape is naughty" then I could understand this spinoff. I did not say that.

Fine. I'm an awful person for not vilifying a person BEFORE they are convicted of something I do not know if they did or did not do. Sorry I did not pass moral judgement on a media event that I have no direct connection to or have any personal stake in.

And I'm done here. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

[RCMerchant]

"... the pros and cons of Bill Cosby being naughty." 

This bugged me for awhile: "naughty"?      

Until it is proven he IS a rapist, the least that can be said is that he was most likely promiscuous. If it is proven, would it make you happy if I changed that to "a filthy rat-bastard rapist"?

I can understand what Hallows is saying-rape is not "naughty'.Rape is EVIL. If he was accused of murder-would you use the term "naughty"?
"Naughty" is what a little kid does when he sneaks cookies out of the jar. "Naughty" is not how you describe rape-whether he is guilty or not-rape is not "naughty."

I understand what he's saying as well. But I don't believe in calling a person something he hasn't been proven to be.

If I had said, "Rape is naughty" then I could understand this spinoff. I did not say that.

Fine. I'm an awful person for not vilifying a person BEFORE they are convicted of something I do not know if they did or did not do. Sorry I did not pass moral judgement on a media event that I have no direct connection to or have any personal stake in.

And I'm done here. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Your welcome.I got horsy sauce-if ya want.
Im sorry you quit over dumb s**t like this.
Dont be a p***y when someone calls you out. 

[Allhallowsday]

"... the pros and cons of Bill Cosby being naughty."  

This bugged me for awhile: "naughty"?    

Until it is proven he IS a rapist, the least that can be said is that he was most likely promiscuous. If it is proven, would it make you happy if I changed that to "a filthy rat-bastard rapist"?

That is not what you suggested.  You wrote "... the pros and cons of Bill Cosby being naughty."   Was he being "naughty"?  Is there a "pro" to this supposed "naughty" behavior?  I don't think rape is equatable with "naughty".  
This is a bit more of what you wrote:

...Okay, back to discussing the pros and cons of Bill Cosby being naughty.

Whether it's true or not, proven or not, there is nothing "pro" or simply "naughty" about rape.  

I understand what he's saying as well. But I don't believe in calling a person something he hasn't been proven to be.

It has not been suggested that you should label HIM anything, and you are right to the extent that we are all innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.  The court of public opinion may perhaps feel differently.  

Now this is a supreme example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face and passive/aggressive behavior:  

If I had said, "Rape is naughty" then I could understand this spinoff. I did not say that.
Fine. I'm an awful person for not vilifying a person BEFORE they are convicted of something I do not know if they did or did not do. Sorry I did not pass moral judgement on a media event that I have no direct connection to or have any personal stake in.

And I'm done here. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

I consider you a friend, but you took this way too far and have now characterized all three of our remarks dishonestly.  You've turned this into something it never was.  It was never personal.  I am sorry to see you are now a guest.  

[Allhallowsday]

And I think this is what some people might call "playing the race card": 

Bill Cosby Breaks Silence: I Only Expect Black Media to Remain 'Neutral' Amid Rape Allegations 

https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/bill-cosby-breaks-silence-black-media-stay-neutral-073643824.html 

As sexual assault allegations mount against him, Bill Cosby broke his silence to make a statement on the media coverage of the accusations.

"Let me say this. I only expect the black media to uphold the standards of excellence in journalism and when you do that you have to go in with a neutral mind," Cosby told a New York Post writer, who also writes for black media outlets, in a short phone conversation from his Massachusetts home...

https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/bill-cosby-breaks-silence-black-media-stay-neutral-073643824.html 

His remarks are a good diversion from the real issue, but in the end I believe he knows exactly what he's doing.  He's turning these allegations into an issue of his race.  The big bad "non black media" have attacked him, apparently, and these many women (it's over 20 allegations now) are a laundry list of lies?  I don't believe that. 

[indianasmith]

He is NOT helping himself.  Every time he opens his mouth he makes things worse for himself.

[Allhallowsday]

New Cosby Accuser Says She Blacked Out for 2 Days After Comedian Drugged Her 

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/cosby-accuser-says-she-blacked-2-days-comedian-025336107.html 

..."I noticed myself getting a little dizzy," she said. "Bill had sat down on the edge of the couch. He said, 'Come over here and have a seat.' And he had his legs open and when I sat down, I was sitting down in between his legs with my back to his crotch. And he started to stroke my hair back in a petting motion like this. The last thing I remember is just feeling the strokes on my head. After that, I don't remember anything else..."


It's up to 24 accusers now...     This story gets worse and worse; it's stomach turning. 

[akiratubo]

I've seen Cosby speak several times on how blacks should not use their race as an excuse or justification.  Now here he is doing it.  Very sad, very disillusioning.