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Started by RCMerchant, July 04, 2015, 07:17:30 AM

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Skull

#751
Quote from: indianasmith on June 23, 2016, 11:02:51 PM
There were ways those opposed to the Klan, no doubt.
It has gone through many different phases since its storied existence started in 1866.

I think the KKK believed it had 3 or 4 phases. (But it seemed like every time they grow in popularity they dwindling very quickly - so I do question the phases.)


I really believe this racist America story is something that has been rewritten over decades and decades and decades; to the point that we are left to assume that White Americans were racist and the civil rights was the first attempt to fix it.

indianasmith

One reason that it is always good to go back and check the primary sources . . . read the editorials from local papers, statements from political leaders as well as local politicians.  I'm a tenth generation Southerner and a sixth generation Texan; things were BAD down here for blacks - straight through from the 1860's to the 1940's.  It was BAD.
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

Skull

#753
Quote from: indianasmith on June 24, 2016, 06:46:27 AM
One reason that it is always good to go back and check the primary sources . . . read the editorials from local papers, statements from political leaders as well as local politicians.  


I do... :)

When somebody comes up with 'Jim Crow' I'm reading why it was, who pushed it and why it stayed. And if a black voter took the time out and read some of this stuff they should hate the democratic party.

I feel like in the scene of the Time Machine (1960) and you talk to the black voters and they are like the Eloi's. They know nothing about nothing but they are happy for all this free food.

This is evil.


QuoteI'm a tenth generation Southerner and a sixth generation Texan; things were BAD down here for blacks - straight through from the 1860's to the 1940's.  It was BAD.

Texas is not the whole USA...

Sam Houston the governor of Texas in the 1860's didn't want Texas to join the Confederacy.

QuoteHouston rejected the actions of the Texas Secession Convention, believing it had overstepped its authority in becoming a member state of the newly formed Confederacy. He refused to take an oath of allegiance to the Confederacy and was deposed from office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_in_the_American_Civil_War#Sam_Houston


Not everybody from the south was with the Confederacy... I wonder what would had happen if Sam Houston was able to deliver his speech...

As for racism in the south...

Most of the anti-black feelings from the south was based on how devastated the southern people were after the civil war. Southern Fathers and Son's were dead or lost limbs that made it impossible for them to go back to work. The rich became poor over night. And property was destroyed. Yeah it would make sense in the south; especially after the civil war and a generation or two... but in the north or White Americans...

Segregation was a power grab. It came out as a patch to repair the ill feelings. Blacks stay on one side of the street while whites stay on the other side of the street and nobody gets hurt. But then it was used as a tool to give superiority to... the poor whites. "Yeah, I'm a poor white guy but I'm better then this black man." but most importantly and the reason why the democrats didn't want to end segregation... because they can control the VOTE.

The reason behind the KKK and Segregation was to control the VOTE!

Today we see segregation as a tool for racism propaganda... "Look at those white Americans - racism is in there BLOOD!"


This is why I get so damn angry when people call TRUMP a racist or Hitler; meanwhile Hillary starts off with her rant about Jim Crow...

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RCMerchant

#755
Skull-the reasons-and the roots-of ISIS go Waaay back-blaming it on Obama is childish.Gimmie a break. Terrorism has been with us-a long time-yer blaming this on Obama-yer world view of things is narrow and predjudice by your political views. Do yer homework. If ya want-I will spell out the history of ISIS . I really can-If ya wanna make me make you look like a fool.
I dont think Obama is all that-I think we should not only carpet bomb them-I do believe we should put troops on the ground and kill them all.
I AM NOT a LIBERAL.
I am an AMERICAN.

I aint gonna argue about FDR's stand on race-Indiana is right-watch a f**king Bugs Bunny cartoon from that era-yeah-whites were pretty racist.
I aint talking about 1942. Im talking NOW!
Clinton-that dumb b***h couldnt find her ass with both hands-shes riding on the coattails of her hillbilly husband.
Trump-
look at his history-
he f**ked over all his backers with bankruptsy in the 80's-and collected-he never made money-he inherieted-and f**ked folks over-hes a millionare scam artist with a big mouth.
Do you really  think he's gonna work for YOU?
He's a CON-Trump is out for TRUMP.

WAKE UP!
The reason we won WW2 is we didnt p***yfooot-I dont think we should p***yfoot now-I I think we should WW2 on there asses-and Im a liberal.
Gee-Nah-I aint a p***yfoot liberal.
Im A f**kIN RADICAL.


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Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
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RCMerchant

BUT! I dont think that we should judge all American Muslims and throw them into camps like we did in WW2 with the Japanese. THATS racist-because lotsa American Japanese did heroic s**t.
And Not all American Muslims are terrorists. Ya gotta be careful
Because-we ARE supposded to be the good guys.
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Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
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RCMerchant

Was FDR a racist? I dunno. Race s**t wasn't a big issue while WW2 was going on. Maybe he was-I dont think he was-we were kinda busy fighting Nazis to get into the race thing. It kinda took center stage.. FDR was a racist? I dunno-I dont get it. I guess he was-he hated Japs and Krauts-are you a Kraut?
Gimme a break-your reaching.
FDR got us threw the Depression and WW2-what-are you a commie?  :tongueout:
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Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
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Skull

Quote from: RCMerchant on June 24, 2016, 01:48:53 PM
I aint gonna argue about FDR's stand on race-Indiana is right-watch a f**king Bugs Bunny cartoon from that era-yeah-whites were pretty racist.
I aint talking about 1942. Im talking NOW!

Why is so damn important? Because people like you and Indy do believe that the culture of America was loaded with racism. Therefore we have this looming feeling of guilt over our heads that makes us stifle our speech/thought because we have this fear of repeating history – racism.

Racism wasn't common. If it was common then why try to pass an Anti-Lynching Bill in 1918.

Think of it... (critical thinking here)

Why would those nasty racist Americans care about a second class citizen? Why push the effort to pass an Anti-Lynching Law. Why?

Lets dig deeper... Why make The Fourteenth Amendment? (because government was looking for an anchor baby law... NO) Why in 1868?

I tell you why because MOST OF THE AMERICANS WERE NOT RACIST! The intent of the 14th amendment was make sure the ex-slaves were citizens.

Leah

yeah no.

RCMerchant

Quote from: Skull on June 24, 2016, 03:13:28 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on June 24, 2016, 01:48:53 PM
I aint gonna argue about FDR's stand on race-Indiana is right-watch a f**king Bugs Bunny cartoon from that era-yeah-whites were pretty racist.
I aint talking about 1942. Im talking NOW!

Why is so damn important? Because people like you and Indy do believe that the culture of America was loaded with racism. Therefore we have this looming feeling of guilt over our heads that makes us stifle our speech/thought because we have this fear of repeating history – racism.

Racism wasn't common. If it was common then why try to pass an Anti-Lynching Bill in 1918.

Think of it... (critical thinking here)

Why would those nasty racist Americans care about a second class citizen? Why push the effort to pass an Anti-Lynching Law. Why?

Lets dig deeper... Why make The Fourteenth Amendment? (because government was looking for an anchor baby law... NO) Why in 1868?

I tell you why because MOST OF THE AMERICANS WERE NOT RACIST! The intent of the 14th amendment was make sure the ex-slaves were citizens.

Gee massa!
Yes-Racism WAS common and accepted-was it right NO! But the idea of tarbaby watermelon n****rs was kinda goin on.-was it right? NO Do I think FDR was some kinda advocate for blacks? NO! But  I DO think that his social service implemations HELPED-and It not only welfare-which did get out of hand-helped ALL.
Not just 'n****rs"-who needed it the most-because they really got the short end of the stick. Because of RACISM. I agree it was abused in later years-but it was needed at first-blacks were f**ked. Is it true now? I dunno-I know my wife is black-and I know half her kin is my kin-soI know I been in jail more than them
It aint skin color-its about ffiance-I was poor-i did bad things.
Be poor-try to live-the only reason ther is more crime among blacks is because they are POOR and live in s**tholes-move yerself in a s**thole-and live.They are in s**tholes because they were our n****rs.
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Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
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RCMerchant

Quote from: Skull on June 24, 2016, 03:13:28 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on June 24, 2016, 01:48:53 PM
I aint gonna argue about FDR's stand on race-Indiana is right-watch a f**king Bugs Bunny cartoon from that era-yeah-whites were pretty racist.
I aint talking about 1942. Im talking NOW!

Why is so damn important? Because people like you and Indy do believe that the culture of America was loaded with racism. Therefore we have this looming feeling of guilt over our heads that makes us stifle our speech/thought because we have this fear of repeating history – racism.

Racism wasn't common. If it was common then why try to pass an Anti-Lynching Bill in 1918.

Think of it... (critical thinking here)



Why would those nasty racist Americans care about a second class citizen? Why push the effort to pass an Anti-Lynching Law. Why?

Lets dig deeper... Why make The Fourteenth Amendment? (because government was looking for an anchor baby law... NO) Why in 1868?

I tell you why because MOST OF THE AMERICANS WERE NOT RACIST! The intent of the 14th amendment was make sure the ex-slaves were citizens.


Gee-how many black folks do you know? Are freinds with? Do you know ANY?
Do you know any Mexicans? Are they your freinds?
Tell me yer freinds?
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
Slobber, Drool, Drip!
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Skull

RCMerchant... I've said enough about this... one day you'll get it... maybe... I hope...

Allhallowsday

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Quote from: RCMerchant on June 24, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
know my wife is black-and I know half her kin is my kin-soI know I been in jail more than them

Did you get married without telling us, RC? Or do you mean common law wife?
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