Who should be the next president?

[Skull]

Ulthar, Skull, with all due respect - if the GOP in Congress did what you suggest it should have done, it would play out like this:

The House shuts down the government demanding X (the repeal of Obamacare, an end to illegal immigration, repeal of gun restrictions, a Federal ban on deficit spending, for the President to admit that he is secretly a gay Muslim communist jihadist, whatever else their little tea party hearts desire).  And then -

The President blames the Republicans for shutting down the government.
The Democratic legislators blame the Republicans for shutting down the government.
The media blames Republicans for shutting down the government.
Hollywood blames the Republicans for shutting down the government.

Then, after a week or so, the typical American voter turns from reality TV to the news and hears about a government shut down.  He says: "What, Yellowstone is closed?  I can't take my kids to the Smithsonian?  Stupid Republican bastards!"

And the GOP gets swept out of office, Democrats reclaim both houses, and the march of socialism goes on.

I'm getting confused here... I thought you're a Ted Cruz supporter? As a Ted Cruz supporter you should know that he did shut down the government for 16 days. The reason why Ted Cruz had a fighting chance against Trump because he did shut the government down. So please can you explain your position on Ted Cruz and then explain to me why you believe this *junk* you posted.

[flackbait]

Ulthar, Skull, with all due respect - if the GOP in Congress did what you suggest it should have done, it would play out like this:

The House shuts down the government demanding X (the repeal of Obamacare, an end to illegal immigration, repeal of gun restrictions, a Federal ban on deficit spending, for the President to admit that he is secretly a gay Muslim communist jihadist, whatever else their little tea party hearts desire).  And then -

The President blames the Republicans for shutting down the government.
The Democratic legislators blame the Republicans for shutting down the government.
The media blames Republicans for shutting down the government.
Hollywood blames the Republicans for shutting down the government.

Then, after a week or so, the typical American voter turns from reality TV to the news and hears about a government shut down.  He says: "What, Yellowstone is closed?  I can't take my kids to the Smithsonian?  Stupid Republican bastards!"

And the GOP gets swept out of office, Democrats reclaim both houses, and the march of socialism goes on.

I'm getting confused here... I thought you're a Ted Cruz supporter? As a Ted Cruz supporter you should know that he did shut down the government for 16 days. The reason why Ted Cruz had a fighting chance against Trump because he did shut the government down. So please can you explain your position on Ted Cruz and then explain to me why you believe this *junk* you posted.

Okay I'm not Indy but I think I get what hes saying here. If the Republicans in the legislature have the federal government shutdown (or even threaten it) every time they disagree with Obama nothing would get done and the Republicans appear to be gumming up the works just cause they won't get their way. So the average American would in turn blame the GOP and vote them out of office next election.  Just by common sense government shutdowns are a last resort tactic and cannot be used to often. It weakens what little confidence we have in our national government and could weaken our economy if we have enough shutdowns. I don't think Indy being a Ted Cruz supporter has to do with the point he was trying to make at all.

Skull I do have a question for you though: In in earlier post you said most Americans were not racist right after the civil war, got any sources for that beyond the 14th amendment? I hope you don't think I'm calling you out. Its just that I'm a history buff and I've never really studied the post antebellum period as much as I should. So any new sources would be interesting to read.

[indianasmith]

I was a Rubio guy from the get-go.  I still hope that he will run again some day - he is a pragmatic conservative whom I agree with on most issues.

I've never liked Cruz that much, but I would have taken him over Trump - that's why I supported him when he was the last man standing..  At least he has some concept of how government works.  But I don't think his shutdowns accomplished much of worth, and I doubt they had a lot to do with his longevity in the race.

[Skull]

Skull I do have a question for you though: In in earlier post you said most Americans were not racist right after the civil war, got any sources for that beyond the 14th amendment? I hope you don't think I'm calling you out. Its just that I'm a history buff and I've never really studied the post antebellum period as much as I should. So any new sources would be interesting to read.

We assume that what was written in our school history books serves as a purpose to educate young minds. It's not. What is written in our school history books serves as a purpose to indoctrinate young minds. Please keep that in mind.

I do recommend you to find out who is Howard Zinn. I also like to suggest: Please don't just take my word – investigate on your own.

The untold truth of the Slavery and the United States Constitution. Most of the founding fathers wanted to end slavery during the draft of the Constitution, but there was opposition against it. The opposition believed that the freed slaves would not return to work. So in order to keep the 13 colonies united the founding fathers accept slavery and designed the constitution in a way that slaves will be freed in the future.  Please note that if the founding fathers didn't compromise – the United States would never exist. ~ I'm saying this because there was always opposition against slavery.


Racism became the power to extort. For example if Indiansmith wanted to run for Governor of Texas to end segregation in his state, the KKK would tell the white farmers if they vote for Indiansmith the crops could go up in flames, shops won't sell and/or buy from them. Please keep in mind what I said about extortion and read this quote:

In my Dad's home town, in 1926, a black boy shot the white teen who had raped his 12 year old sister.  In retaliation, the town's whites didn't just lynch the young black man - they lynched his brother and three of their friends.  Not one person was ever punished for that atrocity, or for most lynchings in the South at that time - but here's the SICK part - they made postcards of those 5 boys, all hanging from one massive oak tree, and you could buy those cards at the local drug store all the way up until the early 1960's!

In the early part of the 1960's there was the civil right movement, therefore it would make sense that some shop owner would sell lynching postcards because there was a symbolic message that was aimed at supporters of the civil rights. If a few KKK members lynched a black man what would stop them from lynching a black loving white folks. Fear.

I was a Rubio guy from the get-go.  I still hope that he will run again some day - he is a pragmatic conservative whom I agree with on most issues.

I've never liked Cruz that much, but I would have taken him over Trump - that's why I supported him when he was the last man standing..  At least he has some concept of how government works.  But I don't think his shutdowns accomplished much of worth, and I doubt they had a lot to do with his longevity in the race.

Ok this makes some sense.

I do believe that Rubio is going to be Trump's VP :)

[Allhallowsday]

[indianasmith]

I sincerely hope that Senator Rubio does the honorable thing and tells Trump to get stuffed - I think whoever serves as Trump's running mate is flushing their political future down the toilet.  The GOP going to get so badly stomped this fall that anyone associated with The Donald's campaign will be a pariah.

[Trevor]

+ 

[RCMerchant]

What makes me sad-I seriously think Trump may win. 

[Skull]

I sincerely hope that Senator Rubio does the honorable thing and tells Trump to get stuffed - I think whoever serves as Trump's running mate is flushing their political future down the toilet.  The GOP going to get so badly stomped this fall that anyone associated with The Donald's campaign will be a pariah.

lol... Some voters think that Rubio's political future was flushed down the toilet when he came out supporting the gang of eight bill.  I've personally believe that the gang of eight was setup to destroy Rubio's political future.

Anyway, I still think Rubio would make an awesome VP for Trump because he would have 4 to 8 years to polish himself to become president.

I seriously think Trump may win.

[indianasmith]

If you actually read it instead of demagoguing it, that bill was a common sense solution to a complex problem, and I wish it had become law.  Rubio was right to support it and I would have done the same in his place.

My fondest dream would be for neither Hillary NOR Trump to win.  But it's just that, a dream.

[Leah]

Friendly reminder to vote for Pedro

[Allhallowsday]

[Skull]

If you actually read it instead of demagoguing it, that bill was a common sense solution to a complex problem, and I wish it had become law.  Rubio was right to support it and I would have done the same in his place.

lol... the bill was a path to a Democrat Voting Block.

If every illegal alien said (and will) vote republican if they become legal citizens... The democrats will kick them out of the country faster then I can spell "Holly s**t!"

[lester1/2jr]

I think of this article sometimes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clintons-gifts-from-foreign-leaders-more-lavish-than-those-for-obama/2013/09/01/b2b721a0-1331-11e3-b182-1b3bb2eb474c_story.html

its about how when she was sec state foreign leaders lavished gifts on Hillary, moreso than even Obama. Some of it maybe maybe in part because she's a woman but more likely they

a. thought she was going to be president and/or
b. find her terrifying

the full list is here https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/04/26/2013-09945/office-of-the-chief-of-protocol-gifts-to-federal-employees-from-foreign-government-sources-reported#t-3

some of it is stuff you'd find on a pirate ship or something. or in a museum. great golden statues with pearl inlays

biggest giver to both: Saudis

[Skull]

I think of this article sometimes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clintons-gifts-from-foreign-leaders-more-lavish-than-those-for-obama/2013/09/01/b2b721a0-1331-11e3-b182-1b3bb2eb474c_story.html

its about how when she was sec state foreign leaders lavished gifts on Hillary, moreso than even Obama. Some of it maybe maybe in part because she's a woman but more likely they

a. thought she was going to be president and/or
b. find her terrifying

the full list is here https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/04/26/2013-09945/office-of-the-chief-of-protocol-gifts-to-federal-employees-from-foreign-government-sources-reported#t-3

some of it is stuff you'd find on a pirate ship or something. or in a museum. great golden statues with pearl inlays

biggest giver to both: Saudis

wow the link is awesome!!! (I question some of the value on the items) such as:

Large portrait of Secretary Clinton in gold frame. Rec'd—4/12/2011. Est. Value—$1,900.00. Location—Pending Transfer to General Services Administration

First thing that comes to my mind:

How large is this portrait?

I can get a 30"x30" gold frame with UV Protection at... 261.78 dollars!!!

http://www.pictureframes.com/custom-frames/Ornate-Profile-Custom-Frame-RR2

Second thing that comes to my mind:

Talk about VAIN...

Third thing that comes to my mind:

How many pictures did Hillary gave away...