Who should be the next president?

[Allhallowsday]

There is no doubt that Columbus is an important historical figure.  My family would not be here either if America did not become what it is.  I do not honor the man for his courage or endurance or major influence on our history and lives.  Sin is, after all, sin.  

The brainwashing is deep. Lets talk sin... Can you name me one country the planet Earth without sin? Conquering lands, converting people and slavery is many-many-many years older than the existence of Egypt.

Indians were no innocent bystander, and if you look deep in the Indian culture you'll find out they also sin many-many-many years before Columbus was born. They conquered lands, converting people by raping the women and they had slaves. This was the way it was. Do you think the Mayans built their 'human sacrifice' temples without slaves?

The modernized oasis that we see today is a little dot on the history of mankind and it's a fragile dot too. I'm grateful to be inside this little dot.

As for Columbus, yes what he did was major and needs to be honored and respected. This lefts bulls**t warped teaching for over 40 freaking years is screwing up the truth because the teaching is so damn narrow. This leftist brainwashing wants every American feel ungrateful and depressed that they were born on the greatest miracle on Earth. The United States is a freaking miracle.

"Brainwashing"?  That's a rude remark.  You cherry pick what you acknowledge and characterize without any insight.  My point of view did not come from teachers of the last 40 years... in fact, I'm probably older than you and learned how to WRITE English (for example). 

Apparently you think in terms of black and white.  Yes, all civilization has histories including sin.  And when I mention "sin" I mean acts of EVIL.  So, just because everybody's doing it doesn't make it right. 

[bob]

I've deciding I'm voting against Trump......

[RCMerchant]

good lord-I cant believe this is not a reality TV show-and folks still support this...person? WHY?
This has gone beyond insane. 
Trump is a SCUMBAG.

[RCMerchant]

My point was-The Republican Party has always-at it's core-since Reagan-been "Family Values." That changed when..

Sorry I have to correct you here... That was changed when Mitt Romney failed to collect 6 million voters. Romney was oozing 'Family Values' and it got him nowhere. Family Values is a political handicap. A one sided joke - that only applies to the republicans (or non-democrats). If Family Values really matter than why was it ok for Bill Clinton to stay as president after we find out it was HIS DNA ON THE BLUE DRESS.

PS... Why would you care about 'Family Values?'

Why would I care about "family values"?

You are a Republican,right? and not just some right wing nut?
If you are a republican-Your party has been riding on "family Values" ticket for years...what happened? You want to elect TRUMP? Who's currant wife is an ex porn star? ARE YOU SERIOUS? He shot himself in the foot waaaay too often...that man is just plain CRAZY. And-Yeah-I do believe in "family vaues. WTF,man.My kids love me-me and Tiana have are ups and downs-were good. Why would you say I have no family values? And even if I was a total scumbag-I dont want to be PRESIDENT.


.You dont buy "p***y".
This man thinks he can buy the presidency. Yeh-he said this ten years ago. He calls women pigs,calls mexican men rapists. And he's the worst creeper of them all. Mexicans are rapists. And he will grab a womens p***y. I dont want this idiot to be president. This aint high school s**t. the President should be a job earned by tolerance and virtue. Yeah-I know-Hillary-blah blah blah. But Trump? really? TRUMP??? I refuse to vote. This is insane.

[RCMerchant]

Fact is-if you call a leader of an unstable country a LOSER-and try to buy your way out of a insane war with crazy terrorists with money....this man will get us in a war bigger than-omg. Putin is his FREIND.  PUTIN. Putin is a terrorist.Georgia wants to be free. Putin is the Russian Trump. WW3 is coming-and if Trump wins-were gonna be the bad guys.
BUT! The good side if Trump wins. because he knows NOTHING about international politics. I dont want war anymore. and he will make it happen-wait a second-I said thats the good side of Trump winning? Mother f**ker. I never said that.

I never said anyhting against Trump in my whole life-ever-I NEVER said anything .


See what I just did? I talked CRAZY. Some idiots will BELIEVE ME.   Some wont. I AM NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. Trump IS crazy-he wants to RULE THE WORLD. he is INSANE.
Your right Skull-tell a big enough lie long enough and people will believe it-Goebbels. Trump quotes that in his book-read it-or havent you yet? Do your homework. HE QUOTES NAZI PHILOSOPHY. I will look it up on the page if you want.

Did you just hear or listen to all that crazy s**t that just came out of my mouth? If you agree or not-I am in NO WAY qualified to be president-I dont have a clue about international politics. I hate Russians-I hate commies. I hate terrorists. Putin supports terrorists. Trump sees MONEY. Because Putin is REALLY rich.
and the Hitler comparison fits like a glove. If you cant see the obvious-well,your blinded by Trump's light. I feel sorry for you-if he wins-I will fight you.
Yup-I'm an extreme radical-will you vote for me? If I had millions of dollars-would you vote for me? If I grabbed your daughters p***y-would you vote for me?

[Skull]

"Brainwashing"?  That's a rude remark.  

Rude -  NO.  I was being truthful and honest. What you had said is brainwashed anti-American propaganda bulls**t. This is nothing new and it probably came out during the pot smoking 1960's, maybe earlier than that.

~ I will skip your second jab ~

Apparently you think in terms of black and white.

Funny but you are the one thinking in black and white. You're stuck with a silly depressed/ungrateful notion that America is a great sinner.  You're the one that thinks Columbus didn't do anything good. But you just omit the facts – that world is built from conquering, conversion and oppression.  It started when man decided that moving in a cave was a good idea (meaning way-way before the cavemen were cavemen).

I know you want to believe the creation of America was invalid because it had a flawed start, sure  I'm assuming this but you had giving me nothing to doubt my suspicions.

The reality is every country in existence had a flawed start.  If America was never founded or if it was destroyed by the war of 1812; the modern world would never exist.  This is why America is the greatest miracle on Earth; because other civilized countries want the same success of America and learned to mimic them. The modernize world didn't start until 1800's, I would think after the civil war. When I mean start, I mean getting the ball rolling in becoming the world that we see today. The world that we see today, really didn't exist until after World War 2.

Yes, all civilization has histories including sin.  And when I mention "sin" I mean acts of EVIL.  

Sin... Evil... You were talking about conquering, conversion and oppression. Yes, today in the modern world we see that as an act of evil. But the modernized world only saw it as act of Evil since the 1940's (World War 2). I'm repeating myself to get the point across.

So, just because everybody's doing it doesn't make it right.  

I'm not sure what you mean by everybody's is doing it and it's ok.  Yes there are still countries committing acts of evil – I never said it was ok. But logically speaking America is not the world's policeman, we shouldn't be. On the other hand, America shouldn't be giving money to those countries committing acts of evil.  If I was president I would stop giving money to any Islamic nation that practices Sharia Law. I don't know about you but I see Sharia Law doing acts of EVIL.

[Skull]

Why would I care about "family values"?

You are a Republican,right? and not just some right wing nut?

I was being realistic and answered why I think it's a joke. I want to know why you think it's so damn important. And apparently you don't. You want it to be the republican handicap.

[indianasmith]

If you have to give up your core values in order to win, you've already lost.  Trump has turned the GOP, and many Christians, into horrible, blatant hypocrites this year, and it's broken my heart.  I see good, decent men prostituting their values to support this vile person, and it makes me nuts.

And after all that, we're not going to win with him.  I doubt he'll get 40% of the popular vote.  It'll take the GOP years to recover from the drubbing we're about to receive.

[RCMerchant]

..and you still dont get it. It's not about anti Hillary. It's about BOTH. I dont support Hillary-but WHY? WHY??? Do you support Trump-Tell me why! All you do,Skull is cut down Hillary-ok-OK-I get it-WHY do you follow this TRUMP guy? Tell me his good views on politics,or even as a nice person-? Would you hang out with him as a buddy? Why do you like him? Why? WHY? All I hear is that you hate Clinton-heard all that.-tell me how Trump is qualified to be leader of the free world.Tell me this,man. How is this man qualified to run ANYTHING? He has bought-and f**ked over,most folks. He was losing money on his casino-he sold his stock in it when he realized he was loosing money-and his stockholders got stuck holding the bag. Yeah-nice guy-he got richer-they got f**ked. He sneaks around the tax codes. Obama had to show his birth proof? And he wont disclose his tax returns. He's a creeper-who denounces Bill Clinton as a scumbag-good god-he makes Clinton look like a monk.
And now he's throwing his money at the PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I think I'm gonna puke.

[RCMerchant]

did you see that evil jackolantern face?

Yup-I'm gonna vote for Trump because Hillary has a Jack-O-Lantern Face. You have the political stance of a 9 year old.
Coming from a guy who's avatar is of of some old dude with a swastika on his shirt does not help your credibility.

[RCMerchant]

and Skull-I find what you say about the Indian Nations VERY offensive. Yes-they went to war. Like you said-we all have. But genocide was not they're goal. They fought for territory. NOT genocide of a race. The White Man back then drove the Nations almost out of existence. THAT WAS EVIL. We put them in concentration camps. That was EVIL. Hitler even said himself in 'Mein Kampf' that he got the idea from-US! THAT IS EVIL. And if you want to go head to head with me on Mein Kampf-cool! I was pro Hitler when I was 18 years old-I read that f**king book 10 times over. Lets discuss this. Lets go head to head with this-my guns are loaded. My dead wife was born on a reservation.You wanna throw your crazy narrow minded bulls**t at American Indians-your f**king with the wrong person,my freind. I know more about that in a thimble than you ever learned in your life. If someone doesnt agree with you-their "LEFT". WTF does that mean? I know what it means-you see life in black and white-"RIGHT" is good-"LEFT" is bad.
Life aint left and right-thats a 20th century term. That actually means NOTHING.

[Allhallowsday]

"Brainwashing"?  That's a rude remark.  

Rude -  NO.  I was being truthful and honest. What you had said is brainwashed anti-American propaganda bulls**t. This is nothing new and it probably came out during the pot smoking 1960's, maybe earlier than that.
~ I will skip your second jab ~

Apparently you think in terms of black and white.

Funny but you are the one thinking in black and white. You're stuck with a silly depressed/ungrateful notion that America is a great sinner.  You're the one that thinks Columbus didn't do anything good. But you just omit the facts – that world is built from conquering, conversion and oppression.  It started when man decided that moving in a cave was a good idea (meaning way-way before the cavemen were cavemen).
I know you want to believe the creation of America was invalid because it had a flawed start, sure  I'm assuming this but you had giving me nothing to doubt my suspicions.
The reality is every country in existence had a flawed start.  If America was never founded or if it was destroyed by the war of 1812; the modern world would never exist.  This is why America is the greatest miracle on Earth; because other civilized countries want the same success of America and learned to mimic them. The modernize world didn't start until 1800's, I would think after the civil war. When I mean start, I mean getting the ball rolling in becoming the world that we see today. The world that we see today, really didn't exist until after World War 2.

Yes, all civilization has histories including sin.  And when I mention "sin" I mean acts of EVIL.  

Sin... Evil... You were talking about conquering, conversion and oppression. Yes, today in the modern world we see that as an act of evil. But the modernized world only saw it as act of Evil since the 1940's (World War 2). I'm repeating myself to get the point across.

So, just because everybody's doing it doesn't make it right.  

I'm not sure what you mean by everybody's is doing it and it's ok.  Yes there are still countries committing acts of evil – I never said it was ok. But logically speaking America is not the world's policeman, we shouldn't be. On the other hand, America shouldn't be giving money to those countries committing acts of evil.  If I was president I would stop giving money to any Islamic nation that practices Sharia Law. I don't know about you but I see Sharia Law doing acts of EVIL.

You are on and on... I am not your opponent, and my thoughts don't derive from other people's prejudices.  You shift gears because you can't hold a single thought, and I mean one thought at a time.  Your entire world view is scrambled eggs.

[Skull]

You are on and on... I am not your opponent, and my thoughts don't derive from other people's prejudices.

I was explaining why I called it 'brainwashed.' Maybe you need to explain Evil and why Columbus is Evil without using leftist talking points; because it does seemed like you are basing your opinion from other people's prejudices.

You shift gears because you can't hold a single thought, and I mean one thought at a time.  Your entire world view is scrambled eggs.

I'm open to see what you can make from a cracked egg.

and Skull-I find what you say about the Indian Nations VERY offensive.

How am I being offensive, when you sort of agree what I've said is correct.

Yes-they went to war. Like you said-we all have. But genocide was not they're goal.

Then why rape the females from an opposing tribe? Isn't the act of rape a form of genocide to that tribe?

[bob]

I voted early today and voted against Trump. Before making it official my first thought was that all the presidential candidates suck as I looked at my ballot.

[claws]

Why did Trump tell his supporters to vote on November 28th? That is so bizarre.