GOD

[RCMerchant]

Yer thoughts on the concept of GOD.
I'm an atheist-so why do you believe-if you do?
I think its flat out a crazy.

Don't mean I'm right-there may be a old f**ker running our lives. 

[indianasmith]

I think that this gorgeous world is a little bit too fine-tuned for life for it to have all happened by accident.
I think that the order and harmony of the cosmos are the fingerprints of its Creator.
I think that the historical evidence, carefully considered, proves that Jesus of Nazareth did indeed rise from the dead.
I think Christianity (as outline in the New Testament, although not always as practiced) makes more sense, ethically and historically, than any other faith out there.
And my faith makes me a better, kinder, and more decent person.

Ergo, I believe. 

[Skull]

Yer thoughts on the concept of GOD.

Why do you post stuff that you're going to regret?


***Think of this****

Our point of view is from a fish living inside a fishbowl. Sure we can make science out of everything inside that fishbowl, but it don't answer questions for what we see and we have noway to access...

I think that this gorgeous world is a little bit too fine-tuned for life for it to have all happened by accident.

This is all you have to say... Sure we don't agree politically... but I do agree with you on this :)

[RCMerchant]

Yer thoughts on the concept of GOD.

Why do you post stuff that you're going to regret?


***Think of this****

Our point of view is from a fish living inside a fishbowl. Sure we can make science out of everything inside that fishbowl, but it don't answer questions for what we see and we have noway to access...

I think that this gorgeous world is a little bit too fine-tuned for life for it to have all happened by accident.

This is all you have to say... Sure we don't agree politically... but I do agree with you on this :)

I don't regret this-I'm happy that you have such faith. Thats a GOOD thing.I wish I had such faith-but I dont. I envy you

[RCMerchant]

the whole concept is just plain crazy-I just dont get it. Ive seen ufos-4 times-I KNOW that they exist. I have NEVER seen god

[Rev. Powell]

Thank you for starting a non-controversial topic to get all the attention off the presidential election!

(Seriously, I think in today's America people are more able to talk reasonably about differences of religious beliefs than they are political differences).

[ER]

I can totally get agnosticism, but atheism seems to me to be based largely on an internal compass, rather like faith itself.

Like faith, atheism can call on some evidence to support itself, true, terminally sick children being a darn fine argument against a benevolent higher power, but ultimately it comes down to a matter of personal conviction, so it is just as lacking, and, I have to add, rather pessimistic at heart. Given a choice I'd much rather say something is possible than conclude it isn't.

One day about a decade ago I was watching a show on archaeology, and the woman in charge of the excavation at a Mesoamerican site held up a stone ball and said, "We know this is proof of one-time human occupation, because nature could never produce a sphere this perfect."

It suddenly hit me that nature, given eons of time, could not make a humble sphere, something a small child could construct with clay, and yet we're supposed to fall in line to the idea that given that same amount of time nature randomly and with blind chance produced something as complex as a human being?

Almost against my stubborn will something in me clicked and I thought, "....huh...."

But to say a creator exists is not necessarily to take one more leap and say human religions necessarily get it right either.

RC, ever read a book called The Case For Christ? At the very least you might find it interesting.

[Rev. Powell]

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Sigh... I overestimated our ability to keep things non-controversial.

What about a voluntary ban on using the words "Trump," "Clinton" or "Obama" in this thread? After all, RCs topic was about the philosophical concept of God.

[Rev. Powell]

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I admit I was wrong when I said people were able to talk reasonably about religious differences. I'm out of the thread, have fun.

[lester1/2jr]

I listened to the bible voter to audio cover last year when I was unemployed. It was OK 

[indianasmith]

OK, OK Skull!

We get your point.  Islam is bad and Trump is the savior of the universe.

Now how about you take that stuff back to the Presidential thread and let us have a philosophical debate, as Ronnie suggested, on whether or not God exists?  PLEASE?

[Rev. Powell]

OK, OK Skull!

We get your point.  Islam is bad and Trump is the savior of the universe.

Now how about you take that stuff back to the Presidential thread and let us have a philosophical debate, as Ronnie suggested, on whether or not God exists?  PLEASE?

I agree, except I think you should have a DISCUSSION, not a DEBATE. Debates are about winners and losers and proving yourself right. Discussions occur between friends and are about expanding your knowledge.

Not to call you out, Indy, you are always a great discusser!

[indianasmith]

Well said, Reverend, and I stand corrected. 

(Although I did call it a "philosophical" debate, which by definition can have no winners!)

[Allhallowsday]

Thank you for starting a non-controversial topic to get all the attention off the presidential election!

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol (sorry but I thought the same when I saw the post)

(Seriously, I think in today's America people are more able to talk reasonably about differences of religious beliefs than they are political differences).

Lets see... Who wants to talk about Allah? Shariah Law? Gay rights and Shariah law? Woman rights and Shariah law? What about Jews and Shariah law? Shariah law and the Constitution... Why are so many terrorist killing innocent people because of Shariah law? Does any American know what the heck is Shariah law?
I do think Americans need to understand the truth about Shariah Law before they start b***hing about Trump's 'Temporary' ban on Muslims. (Sorry to talk about the presidential toilet on this thread.)

Sigh... I overestimated our ability to keep things non-controversial.
What about a voluntary ban on using the words "Trump," "Clinton" or "Obama" in this thread? After all, RCs topic was about the philosophical concept of God.

Looks like Skull deleted everything you had quoted.       

[Rev. Powell]

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Looks like Skull deleted everything you had quoted.       

Yes, and he asked me to delete where I had quoted him. He requests everyone do the same. I would not interpret that as him backing down on his statements, but rather that he acknowledges they were off topic. I respect that he accepts that.