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HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)

Started by kakihara, October 09, 2016, 11:03:29 AM

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kakihara

Which do you think is best? Im currently watch the whole series. Ive watched 5 so far. i think the first is the best so far, with the second right behind it.  The third doesnt really count, though how could you not like that one because of its badness? I read that 4 and 5 had a lot of problems on the production side, reshoots, rewrites, etc. Thoughts?
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Chainsawmidget

One is easily the best. 

While you might not count three, it's a really great Halloween (the holiday) movie, even if it's not a very good Halloween (the series) movie. 

After that 2 is third best. 

Once you've watched them you can watch H20 (horrible title) and feel like you've seen the entire story. 

But if you have to watch them all, the one with Myer's niece... I forget which one that is... that's also not too shabby.  It had a great twist ending at the end that they never followed up on. 

I'd recommend against either of the Rob Zombie versions.

zombie no.one

#2
agree that #1 is best. no competition really

#5 is absolutely painful.

edit, the one with Busta Rhymes is the worst though. the virtual reality tv show one, lol

retrorussell

#1 is excellent, #7 is well done and #2 is fun.  #3 was a guilty pleasure for many especially when it came out on cable.  #8 is just plain awful, as is #6.  #4 is meh, #5 is bleah.  Plans for a 9th have been largely derailed due to producer Moustapha Akkad's passing at the hands of a terrorist attack. 
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kakihara

Virtual reality tv show? Wtf? I havent got that far yet, i was hoping the series didnt get that bad. Ive heard about the busta rhymes kung fu, not looking forward to it. For what its worth: i didnt think rob zombies version was that bad. The second one, uuuugghhh.....
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zombie no.one

sorry I meant "reality tv show" of course... no idea what a virtual reality tv  show is  :teddyr:

Chainsawmidget

Quote from: zombie #1 on October 09, 2016, 03:35:29 PM
sorry I meant "reality tv show" of course... no idea what a virtual reality tv  show is  :teddyr:
I'm picturing some sort of cross between Micheal Myers and Lawnmower Man.   :drink:

zombie no.one

that could be scary for all kinds of reasons...


just realised Ive only seen 1 of the rob zombie Halloweens, but annoyingly I cant remember which one. want to check out the one I haven't seen.

Alex

I have to admit to enjoy the first Rob Zombie one, but the second left me feeling what the hell did I just watch?
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clockworkcanary

#9
I should be saving my comments until my next podcast recording (we're going to cover the whole series) but I can't resist.

I'm probably of the purist school of thought on this series. Halloween 1 (1978) was classic and should never have had a sequel. This series s**t to bed so often that it has at least 3 timelines (it's about as bad as the parallel universes in comics).

Timeline 1: H1, H2, H4, H5, and H6
Timeline 2: H1, H2, H20, Ressurrectum
Timeline 3: H1 remake, H2 remake

H1 was classic for a few reasons. Psychopath picks a victim at random and stalks her, killing off her babysitting friends.

H2 jumped the shark for me by adding the whole sibling bull. Way to take the scary right out of it. It was scarier when the motivation was random.

Then the Reality show one...omfg. Never, ever have a current pop star go over your main draw...ever.

As far as the niece stuff/Thorn cult druid stuff, eee gads.

How did a simple, straightforward tale of a baby sitter murderer devolve into some overarching druid cult stuff? How did they get here?!

And the Zombie remakes are horrible, IMO. So Myers became a killer due to a bad upbringing (nurture over nature). Haddonfield isn't a seemingly safe suburb, it's a meth lab white trash neighborhood.

Again, I don't think this story ever warranted a sequel. Or if it had, it should have just been him randomly selecting yet another victim by chance and stalking them, but then, how far can that premise go?




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Ash

Would you believe that I have never seen the original Halloween by John Carpenter?   :buggedout:
I'm 42 years old and have been a member of this site for 16 years and I've only seen maybe 10 minutes of it.
It's just one of those movies that I always knew about and saw it on the shelf at the video store 10,000 times, but it somehow slipped through the cracks.

I think I know what my Halloween movie will be this year. 

kakihara

I have finally seen them all, and it was painfull. I still think the first is the best. Its very simple and straight foreward. Resurrection was a steaming pile of crap, thats the one everybody talks about and i see why. Jamie lee curtis dying in the first 10 minutes? Busta rhymes telling michael myers off?!! Busta rhymes doing kung fu (with a bruce lee "whoooooo..."), then busta kicking michael out of a window? !! Wtf.
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zombie no.one

Quote from: Ash on October 14, 2016, 06:46:41 PM
Would you believe that I have never seen the original Halloween by John Carpenter?   :buggedout:
I'm 42 years old and have been a member of this site for 16 years and I've only seen maybe 10 minutes of it.
It's just one of those movies that I always knew about and saw it on the shelf at the video store 10,000 times, but it somehow slipped through the cracks.

I think I know what my Halloween movie will be this year. 
don't worry, I had never seen the first Friday 13th movie til a few months ago. I saw Part 8 Takes Manahattan maybe a couple of yrs after it came out, and gradually saw all the rest in a completely random order...except for part 1!

on that note, I think Jason Vs Michael would've made more sense as a movie match up, than Jason vs Freddy...

Archivist

Quote from: Ash on October 14, 2016, 06:46:41 PM
Would you believe that I have never seen the original Halloween by John Carpenter?   :buggedout:
I'm 42 years old and have been a member of this site for 16 years and I've only seen maybe 10 minutes of it.

I am in a very similar boat, but the difference is that I am not sure if I've seen it or not.  Most of the series played on TV, one per week, for about a month or so during the late 80's or early 90's in Australia.  I know I've seen number 3, Season of the Witch.  That was an odd one due the lack of Michael Myers and the bizarre music.  My brother and I would regularly take off Michael Myers' 'awakenings' after seeing those movies, with one of us lying on the ground with eyes closed, then suddenly snapping our eyes open, as if returning from death.

I wonder if there's a box set of the classic ones...
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indianasmith

I thought that the first Rob Zombie Halloween movie was brilliant.
The second one sucked rancid turkey eggs.
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