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SCARY MOVIE 3: Hollywood, will you EVER learn!

Started by Chris K., May 18, 2002, 10:26:26 PM

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Chris K.

From what I hear a SCARY MOVIE 3 is on the way. Am I excited? Well, since I thought the first and second film were nothing but garbage, I am not excited. But I guess this is the type of "Cult Hollywood" film that everybody wants to see again. And again and again.

It's amazing that SCARY MOVIE has some of the crappiest, gross-out humor ever seen on film and yet after the horrid FREDDY GOT FINGERED the question "Do we really need another film of this type?" to be made. The answer could be yes or no.

Offthewall


Babydoll

I thought Scary Movies could have been better if they left out the cursing.  I got tired of hearing "####" and "#####" every five minutes.

The idea of the show was cute.  

Can the movies producers come out with clean cut movies?

Foywonder

SCARY MOVIE EPISODE 3: THE LORD OF THE BROOMS

I'm not lying. I've read that's the title they are considering. You can stop laughing now.

www.nowff.com

J.R.

Sweet merciful heavens. The Wayans family and all of their ilk (David Allan Grier, Jamie Foxx, etc.) are horribly unfunny, yet Hollywood seems to be ignorant of this fact, continuing to give them unfunny movies no one sees, unfunny TV shows no one watches and makes them corporate pitchmen in unfunny and annoying commercials. Gross-out humor can and has been good, but only when it's pulled off well, and the people doing it now are incapable of that.

p.s.- Freddy Got Fingered, while very, very bad, was NOT as disgusting as it's made out to be. Anyone disgusted by it has a very weak constitution.

C. Hill

No, please say it's not true.  Unfortunatley it'll probably make millions at the box office just like the other two.  Sometimes I get tired of living in a country filled to the brim with stupids.  Scary Movie is utter cockgarbage.

Pete B6K

There's a rental version DVD of 'Freddy Got Fingered' on Blackstar.co.uk for £80!
That almost $115! Who would ever buy that? Is the film actually enjoyable? It's almost unheard of over here as far as I know.

J.R.

Well, if you've never seen the Tom Green show, he's basically a jackass that goes around annoying people for fun. Why he gets his own tv show when my friends and I do that all the time for no reason is beyond me. In this movie he does pretty much the same thing, only it's scripted, so any fun seeing real people annoyed gives you is gone. Anyway, the movie is basically a bunch of lame "gross-out" gags that fail to gross-out strung together by the most puerile and simplistic dialogue in the history of the world.

DAD: Do you have a job, son?
GORD: Yes, daddy. I have a job.
DAD: I'm proud of you, son. You have a job.
GORD: Yes, daddy. I have a job so that you will be proud of me.
DAD: I am proud that you have a job.
GORD: I'm your son and I have a job.
DAD: I'm your dad and I'm proud that you have a job.

Repeat ad nauseam and you have the film's script.

Majin Boo 2

American movies are not different and unique no more. Now all the american movies are based on video games, comic books, T.V. shows, remakes and even novels. Or yeah even worst copying off of international movies but giving it a different title as they on. Like for example La femme Nikta the original french version. Now the stupid american version will be called Point of no return.

RavenBomb

I disagree. Some american movies have been unique, or at least somewhat original.

And how could you not find a skinny Canadian guy jerking off an elephant at least a little sick?

Chadzilla

How to NOT make a profit?  Scary Movie 1 and 2 (neither of which I have actually bothered to see - I dislike horror parodies) both turned a semi-tidy profit for the studio, hence there will be a third to make more money.   Simple business smarts, hell even independent producers exploit franchise (or 'tent pole') titles (New Line Cinema became a major independent studio for a brief time thanks to its lucrative Nightmare on Elm Street films).  As long as these movie make money for the producers/investors/studios (which is precisely what they are designed to do) sequels will continued to be made, irregardless of actual quality.  Only when they STOP making money will the sequels end, only to be replaced with sequels to OTHER movies.  Vote with your wallet, do not pay to see movies you don't want made.

Jay O'Connor

Read Ken's review of "Superman IV" to see this in action

Chris K.

...do we really need another sequel. And as I said, the answer to certain audiences would be "Yes" and "No". What Hollywood needs to LEARN is to start making effective entertaining films rather than making a poorly handled item that they can sell-off and make money. Yes, it's simple business smarts. But then, their are two types of products that can be made:

1.) A product that is carefully made
2.) A product that is poorly made

And yet, BOTH can either make money or not make money depending on it's audience status. Looking at SCARY MOVIE's uncanny success, it's a poorly made product. But did it make money? Yes it did. And that is what makes me say "When will Hollywood ever learn". When will Hollywood make a product (i.e. feature film) that is carefully constructed? Well, Hollywood has made some good features, but then their are some that are not so good. And sometimes the bad ones make more money.

But I think the main reason why I say this is that SCARY MOVIE, at least in my opinion, has come to a close and needs to stop while it's ahead. Critics loved the first one, but some hated the second adaptation.

As for not paying to see features that I don't want to see, it's not that easy. I mean, when you look at the advertisements and so fourth it LOOKS like the film is going to be good. But when you plunk down the cash and see the results, that's when you realize you did not get more bang for your buck. I remember seeing trailers for DUDE, WHERE'S MY CAR? and FREDDY GOT FINGERED and thought "Damn, now that's got to be a funny movie", but when I saw the final result I turned out to be wrong. And usually it's the other way around for when I saw the trailer for THE OTHERS I felt "Another haunted house flick, it will be dull". Just recently I rented THE OTHERS on DVD and it blew me away! So it really depends on your judgement when it comes to paying/not paying for features I want/don't want to see.

So why another? Like what Chadzilla said, it made money. How true.

Mofo Rising

Well, I certainly see your point of view Chris K., but I agree with Chadzilla.

But really, I don't think you should worry yourself about the SCARY MOVIE franchise.  The movies are clearly from the "movies as mere entertainment" camp.  No attempt artistry, just trying to amuse the audiences enough to make them spend their money on the film.  A money-making machine.  So any further attempts to cash in on that don't seem too out of line.  They will make as many sequels as economically feasible.  (Although, really, any more than three gets fairly ridiculous.)

It's when a movie that is much loved by audiences both for its entertainment and artistic value is brought down by it's sequels that we really have to worry.  I'll bring up again the much read (by me, anyway) Ken Begg SUPERMAN IV article.  The original Superman movie, and to a lesser extent its sequel, was a cinematic triumph.  But the money-making machine that is Hollywood insisted on making two more movies, to much diminishing returns.  That is a cinematic tragedy brought about by Hollywood.

The pimping of the SCARY MOVIE franchise on the American public is just the studio's desire to make bundles of money.  SCARY MOVIE never wanted to be "art", just a fun way to pass the time.  Of course, I don't think it's fun, in fact, those movies are brutal to watch.  But many, many people do seem to like them.  The mass movie-going public is historically uncritical.  You and I may pass on the two dollar hooker with no teeth, but to the American public, a blowjob is a blowjob.  (I'm sorry.  I really have no idea where that metaphor came from.)

So really, it just comes down to ignoring your revulsion to mass marketed pablum.  Teen Pop is apparently making oodles of money right now, but I've never bothered to listen to it.  I consistently seek out quality entertainment and artistry, no matter the medium, no matter the expense and time I have to expend doing it.  I am part of another demographic, and I know there are enough people like me to make the artistic endeavors I enjoy economically viable.  True, the mainstream portion of society does have, and always will have, particularly poor taste.  The only solution is to ignore them, and let your own head think for itself.

Of course, it is always fun to complain about and bash the things people love.  I forgot the point of my post while I was writing it, so I'll leave it at that.

Chris K.

Good point's there Mofo Rising and I as well agree with Chadzilla. And that "a blowjob is a blowjob" is really a strange metaphor to use. But it works.

Of course, these "complaints" on the upcoming SCARY MOVIE are just thoughts. True, their are some out there who like it and that is their own choice. But I have to say that I am not going to be in line for the sequel.

But both Chadzilla and Mofo Rising's comments are true. Very true.