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Canada to Change National Anthem.

Started by AoTFan, February 07, 2018, 12:38:34 AM

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AoTFan

So, the Canadian national anthem is getting a change.  The line about "sons" is being taken out and replaced with something more gender neutral.

Curious, is there anyone from up north that has any thoughts about this?  Being American, I can't really say one way or another what I think about it... I think I've only even heard the Canadian anthem once or twice in my lifetime.  Admittedly, at first, I was ready to jump on this as PC nuttiness, buuuuut... someone else has pointed out that supposedly the original 1908 lyrics of the song did NOT have the line about sons, so I dunno.  

Breitbart article on it, which definitely has some opinion thrown in
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/02/canada-changing-national-anthem-remove-male-pronouns-make-lyrics-gender-neutral/

Bit of history about the anthem
https://globalnews.ca/news/4002268/oh-canada-originally-gender-neutral/

ER

#1
Well that's gonna go over even less than bikini waxing does up there. (In college in the Northeast, we had a lot of Canadians at my school, and you'd catch a few in the locker room coming out of the showers or changing or whatever and it got to be a standing joke, "Ohhh, that's why the beaver is their national emblem....") Anyway, their country, their choice, whatever, great nation all the same and I do love their flag. They're also incredibly polite, Canadians usually are, and I imagine in changing this they're trying not to offend. Shrug.

What does not kill me makes me stranger.

Fox Sake

it will be interesting if this concept is encouraged across other countries and their anachronistic anthems that perhaps holds little relevance in today's virtue signalling society. Our very own UK national anthem might find itself under such amicroscope, although I dobut the Establishment will bend much.

BoyScoutKevin

Do I have any opinions about Canada changing its National Anthem? No.

Nor do I have any opinion about any other country changing their national anthem. Though, I do think it is interesting when countries talk about changing their national anthem, and what they want to change it to.

United States
I know in the past, that there has been some talk of changing the American national anthem The Star Spangled Banner, because it is supposedly difficult to sing to something more sing able. The last time I heard of it being changed, the two lead candidates for the national anthem were God Bless America and America the Beautiful. Of course, to date, we are still singing The Star Spangled Banner as the American anthem.

Australia
The national anthem being Advance Australia Fair. A change from the old anthem which was God Save the Queen. Though, what I think was interesting is that one of the candidates for a new national anthem was Waltzing Matilda, which has always been one of my favorite songs ever since we studied Australia back in the '60's when I was in the 6th grade.

AoTFan

Quote from: BoyScoutKevin on February 11, 2018, 05:30:16 PM
Australia
The national anthem being Advance Australia Fair. A change from the old anthem which was God Save the Queen. Though, what I think was interesting is that one of the candidates for a new national anthem was Waltzing Matilda, which has always been one of my favorite songs ever since we studied Australia back in the '60's when I was in the 6th grade.

Really?  I heard they were thinking about changing it to "99 Bottles of Beer On the Wall".

Svengoolie 3

Canada should change it's anthem to "We're not am-er-ica, tha-ank yo-ou God for that!"
The doctor that circumcised Trump threw away the wrong piece.

ER

I have a close friend in Austin whose parents are Jewish, though he says he isn't, whatever, his business to define who he is, but he said to me once, "I admire one thing and one thing only about Nazi Germany."

I said, "What, Hugh, their tasteful fashion sense?"

He said, "No, they were not self-loathing like Americans."
What does not kill me makes me stranger.

RCMerchant

Quote from: ER on February 11, 2018, 08:25:12 PM
I have a close friend in Austin whose parents are Jewish, though he says he isn't, whatever, his business to define who he is, but he said to me once, "I admire one thing and one thing only about Nazi Germany."

I said, "What, Hugh, their tasteful fashion sense?"

He said, "No, they were not self-loathing like Americans."

Actually-I don't think that's true. After WWI, It seems,to me-because I'm weird- that the Germans felt somehow inferior- which is why they overcompensated with the Nazi stuff.  I think there was much self loathing.

I bet Himmler couldn't look at himself naked in the mirror.

I know I couldn't look at him naked in the mirror!
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Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
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AoTFan

Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on February 11, 2018, 08:19:28 PM
Canada should change it's anthem to "We're not am-er-ica, tha-ank yo-ou God for that!"

You know, if you don't wish to root for the home team, you can always leave the stadium.

dean

Quote from: AoTFan on February 11, 2018, 07:31:30 PM
Quote from: BoyScoutKevin on February 11, 2018, 05:30:16 PM
Australia
The national anthem being Advance Australia Fair. A change from the old anthem which was God Save the Queen. Though, what I think was interesting is that one of the candidates for a new national anthem was Waltzing Matilda, which has always been one of my favorite songs ever since we studied Australia back in the '60's when I was in the 6th grade.

Really?  I heard they were thinking about changing it to "99 Bottles of Beer On the Wall".

I think you'll find that this is probably a higher candidate:

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Trevor

The South African National anthem was changed in 1994 to one better reflecting the new democracy. It's nice but I still think the song Shozaloza is way better.  :teddyr:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shosholoza#Rugby_World_Cup_1995

Major goosebumps whenever I hear it: it was also used in Invictus  :tongueout: and in The Gods Must Be Crazy and Dingaka.
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

Svengoolie 3

Quote from: AoTFan on February 11, 2018, 11:44:18 PM
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on February 11, 2018, 08:19:28 PM
Canada should change it's anthem to "We're not am-er-ica, tha-ank yo-ou God for that!"

You know, if you don't wish to root for the home team, you can always leave the stadium.

I might emigrate to canada if i had the resources to. Or some western European nation. Of a Scandinavian region nation. Or even France.
The doctor that circumcised Trump threw away the wrong piece.

RCMerchant

If I was to move to another country- I'd move to either South America (because-unlike Michigan-it's warm! 0r Japan (because folks are short like me).
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
Slobber, Drool, Drip!
https://www.tumblr.com/ronmerchant

ER

Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on February 13, 2018, 12:39:45 AM
Quote from: AoTFan on February 11, 2018, 11:44:18 PM
Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on February 11, 2018, 08:19:28 PM
Canada should change it's anthem to "We're not am-er-ica, tha-ank yo-ou God for that!"

You know, if you don't wish to root for the home team, you can always leave the stadium.

I might emigrate to canada if i had the resources to. Or some western European nation. Of a Scandinavian region nation. Or even France.
I hear Go Fund Me is making all kinds of dreams come true these days...
What does not kill me makes me stranger.

Trevor

Quote from: RCMerchant on February 13, 2018, 06:24:00 AM
If I was to move to another country- I'd move to either South America (because-unlike Michigan-it's warm! 0r Japan (because folks are short like me).

Come to South Africa: folks are friendly, weather is warm (not in winter, though) and everyone's either short or tall.  :teddyr:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.