May be going to jail soon.

[Svengoolie 3]

I got a jury notice today. It;s one of those where you're supposed to put you life on hold for several days and call every morning to see if you're supposed to come in that day or not.

If I get called in I'm probably going to jail, possibly for months.

First off our legal system is so corrupt today that I do not respect it. People going to prison for long times over minor acts, police on camera committing murder and walking away scott free, our prison system turned into for profit private businesses where poeople's lives are turned into corporate profit, ad infinutum. If standing when a judge waddles into or out of a court is a gesture of respect to our courts I won,t make it, so off to jail i go sans trial or any due process possibly for months for exercising my first amendment right to express the fact i feel the court system doesn't deserve respect. The irony being that this would in fact prove our court system doesn't deserve respect.

So if I get called i will not stand for a judge and likely sent directly to jail for exercising a first amendment right to express an opinion. I'm majking arrangements for friends to take care of my stuff but I don;t know what's going to happen to my life or how much i may lose.

[indianasmith]

So in short, you are going to make an ass out of yourself and blame the system?

[Svengoolie 3]

I feel our court system does not deserve respect and i will express that view by refusing to stand,m which is essentially the same as kneeling' for it. Our courts are shoveling americans into the maw of for profit prisons where their lives are turned into corporate profits, essentially the new, rebranded form of slavery. I do not respect our court system and believe being coerced into showing respect for it violates my first amendment rights.

[indianasmith]

You know, oddly enough, I've obeyed the law my whole life and never once been shoveled into a "for-profit" prison system.
Funny how that works.

I think our system works the vast majority of the time, and I think most of the people whining the loudest are also the people who can't seem to get out of the habit of breaking the law.

But, by all means, refuse to stand for the judge.  Spit in his face to show your contempt for the system.  Then we will be spared your constant reminders that you hate the majority of the people in the world for a little while!

[Gene Worm]

While yes, I completely agree that our legal system is corrupt as hell, but you'd rather go to jail than just going along with it? 

I understand the desire to fight the s**t system, but that decision probably won't change anything and wouldn't you just end up with the exact things you've been complaining about?

[Allhallowsday]

I think it's all talk anyway.  As in blah blah blah.  Lip service. 

[Svengoolie 3]

You know, oddly enough, I've obeyed the law my whole life and never once been shoveled into a "for-profit" prison system.
Funny how that works.

I think our system works the vast majority of the time, and I think most of the people whining the loudest are also the people who can't seem to get out of the habit of breaking the law.

But, by all means, refuse to stand for the judge.  Spit in his face to show your contempt for the system.  Then we will be spared your constant reminders that you hate the majority of the people in the world for a little while!

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So,  refusing to commit a gesture of submission,  which is what standing for a judge basically is,  is somehow equal to spitting in someone's face?  False equivelancy much?

[ER]

When I was in France I came to respect the legal system there, no juries, only a panel of judges. No theatrics from lawyers, no activist jurors, the law was strictly interpreted and enforced.

BTW, Sven, by all means speak your mind in there, mate.

[Svengoolie 3]

While yes, I completely agree that our legal system is corrupt as hell, but you'd rather go to jail than just going along with it? 

I understand the desire to fight the s**t system, but that decision probably won't change anything and wouldn't you just end up with the exact things you've been complaining about?

In human history a few men may have wanted to set a nation on a terrible course, but it only  goes there if enough people "just go along with it". I've seen our rights trampled abd negated by the legal system,  government and big business for many years now.  I'm sick and tired of just going along with it.

[Svengoolie 3]

I think it's all talk anyway.  As in blah blah blah.  Lip service. 

When I saw the hate abd rage directed at Colin Kaepernick for his refusal to quietly approve of intolerable things being done in this coubry I felt a deep respect for him and his courage.  Maybe if I follow his lead I can respect myself again.

BTW  if my posts are so repugnant to you why read them?  I quit reading a users posts after she started xxxing on every post I made.

[Leah]

You couldn't just go down to the jury place and say that you would be busy during the jury dates?

[Alex]

Afraid replies like that is what happens when you do so much to make yourself disliked. It seems odd to me that you work so hard at it and then complain about getting exactly what you earned. If you don't want people to make these replies to your posts you could equally not make them instead of complaining about people replying to them. Or do you only want replies that agree with you? For someone who claims to be a liberal I have certainly seen some interesting and very telling posts from you about other peoples freedom of beliefs and where they should post or not. Frankly if you didn't keep mentioning how much you hate Nazi's and that you are a liberal I would actually have assumed you were pretty far out on the right wing.

If you choose instead to use your right to free speech, then complaining about other people using the same right just makes you sound like a whiny b***h (not to mention that this is a common argument used by people on the right who want to spread their own views when other people call them out on it). So how about less complaining about other people using their rights just the same as you and learn to accept that if you post something other people have the right to reply to it, even if it is just to tell you they don't agree with what you say or rag on every post you make. Unless you have started paying for or running this site I don't believe you have any particular powers or extra rights that would allow you to expect otherwise. You certainly haven't earned the respect that might have gotten you what you want.

If anyone else was to have made this post I'd be all for supporting them, offering any advice and help I could, but when I finished reading the OP all I could summon up was a common response in my job when someone is having a whinge about something. You want sympathy? Try looking in a dictionary between s**t and Syphilis.

You want to stick it to the man? Go ahead. If it gives you self respect then so much the better (your post comes off more though as you trying to make yourself out to be something of a martyr though) however on reading the title of the post my first thought was 'I won't miss you'. I generally like the people on this forum and respect them, even (and sometime especially) the ones I occasionally argue with. For you I just find it hard to care, which is a real shame because many of your posts have been really good. Its just the amount of s**t you have to wade through to get to them just burned me out on caring about your opinions or what happens to you.

[Chainsawmidget]

All I'm seeing from this is "I'm so much better and moral than other people.  Boo-hoo.  they're going to punish me simply because I'm acting like an @$$hole to them."

If you loose all your self respect just by playing along and showing simple courtesy to somebody, you probably didn't have that much to begin with.  You just want to make an example out of yourself not because you believe in something, but because you want people to think you do.    

Then again, you probably won't do it anyway.  I'm not convinced you're not making this whole thing up anyway.  When you go in to be selected for jury duty they ASK you if you have any problems fulfilling your role.  Unless you were lying to them there, they should have picked you out at that point.  

[Allhallowsday]

I think it's all talk anyway.  As in blah blah blah.  Lip service. 

When I saw the hate abd rage directed at Colin Kaepernick for his refusal to quietly approve of intolerable things being done in this coubry I felt a deep respect for him and his courage.  Maybe if I follow his lead I can respect myself again.

BTW  if my posts are so repugnant to you why read them?  I quit reading a users posts after she started xxxing on every post I made.

What on Earth would make you think your posts are "so repugnant"?  Don't single me out; I'm one of the few who might be inclined to agree with your politics.  I admire COLIN KAEPERNICK, but i do not think your civil disorder protest is brave unless you actually do it... and get thrown in jail for it.  What COLIN KAEPERNICK did was in front of a national audience.  He is a brave man. 

[AoTFan]

So if I get called i will not stand for a judge and likely sent directly to jail for exercising a first amendment right to express an opinion. I'm making arrangements for friends to take care of my stuff but I don;t know what's going to happen to my life or how much i may lose.

Or you could, I dunno, try to get ON the jury, listen to the case, and if you (sincerely) believe that someone is being railroaded, try to persuade the rest of the jury with rational arguments.

Wouldn't that be more helpful to someone rather than getting thrown in jail in a useless act of "protest" that'll come off more as a act of petty immaturity?