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The END of CIVILITY ?

Started by Allhallowsday, July 26, 2018, 10:12:51 PM

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Allhallowsday

I had a discussion with a friend today and we agreed that in current culture, CIVILITY suffers. 

If you want to view paradise . . . simply look around and view it!

LilCerberus

agreed...........
I've been getting a lot more use out of this than I thought I would;
"How absurd," said the gnat to the gnu,
"To spell your queer name as you do!"
"For the matter of that,"
Said the gnu to the gnat,
"That's just as I feel about you." - Oliver Herford
"Science Fiction & Nostalgia have become the same thing!" - T Bone Burnett
The world runs off money, even for those with a warped sense of what the world is.

indianasmith

I generally try to be civil in my discourse.  I also dearly love debate and discussion of history, politics, and current events.
Too many people, the minute you disagree with them, immediately resort to personal insults.
That makes it hard to maintain civil discourse.

The thing is, as a traditional Republican who despises all things Trump, I tend to catch it from both directions!
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

Allhallowsday

Quote from: indianasmith on July 26, 2018, 10:26:11 PM
I generally try to be civil in my discourse.  I also dearly love debate and discussion of history, politics, and current events.
Too many people, the minute you disagree with them, immediately resort to personal insults.
That makes it hard to maintain civil discourse.

The thing is, as a traditional Republican who despises all things Trump, I tend to catch it from both directions!
I realize this, my friend, but I, for one, admire you.   :thumbup:
If you want to view paradise . . . simply look around and view it!

RCMerchant

#4
You won't get no argument from me.
Our goverment right now is filled with cheats, liars, rich a***oles who want to get richer, and a President who has payed women to shut up because he f**ks around on his wife.
I never liked Howard Stern.
I never read garbage like the NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

If I'm at the store, or bank, or wherever, I always say, "Yes, Ma'am"  or "No Ma'am" to a lady.
(not to my mother of my children- who want's drug money- I just laff and say- "are you crazy?"- I broke up with her over 20 years ago-Thank you Satan!)
I always open the door for a lady. Even with cars.
I take my hat off in a diner or theater.
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
Slobber, Drool, Drip!
https://www.tumblr.com/ronmerchant

Allhallowsday

Quote from: RCMerchant on July 26, 2018, 11:03:10 PM
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I always open a door for a lady.
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I take my hat off in a diner or theater.
You da man.  :thumbup:
If you want to view paradise . . . simply look around and view it!

RCMerchant

Quote from: Allhallowsday on July 26, 2018, 10:56:54 PM
Quote from: indianasmith on July 26, 2018, 10:26:11 PM
I generally try to be civil in my discourse.  I also dearly love debate and discussion of history, politics, and current events.
Too many people, the minute you disagree with them, immediately resort to personal insults.
That makes it hard to maintain civil discourse.

The thing is, as a traditional Republican who despises all things Trump, I tend to catch it from both directions!
I realize this, my friend, but I, for one, admire you.   :thumbup:

Indy- your between a rock and a hard place. I admire you very much.
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
Slobber, Drool, Drip!
https://www.tumblr.com/ronmerchant

indianasmith

"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

RCMerchant

#8
I never put my feet on the table.

I believe in complete mogonomy when it comes to relationships. I NEVER cheated on Tara Sue, Tiana, or even Gail or Kerrie.
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
Slobber, Drool, Drip!
https://www.tumblr.com/ronmerchant

RCMerchant

#9
I watch TV for movies- not to tell me who to vote for President. I have a brain.I This is not a game show.
We have a Jersey Shore President. It makes me sick that so many people are brainwashed by this moron who is our President- because they watch too much TV. Sometimes the masses are morons.
This is not coming from an elitest.. This is coming from someone who lives in a tiny town in Michigan.
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
Slobber, Drool, Drip!
https://www.tumblr.com/ronmerchant

Svengoolie 3

I think a clue things killed civility.

One was the internet.  The ability to throw shxt at people in perfect safety just brought out the total @$$hole in a lot of people.  The hate and gleeful abuse on the net was bound to percolate into the rest of society.

Two was the American right and it'''s fanatical hatred of Bill Clinton,  starting with the endless spew of pure hate that poured out of the ambulatory cesspool known as rush Limbaugh. That subhuman troll made a career out of pure hate,  abuse,  lies,  invective,  ad infinitum,  ad nauseum.  The toxins spread thru the American right and created new tumors like alex Jones,  Mikey savage,  Sean hannity,  etc. 

After decades of eger escalating abuse from the right the left in the us now sick of it and spitting it back at the right.  Thus died discussion,  discourse,  reason and civilty.
The doctor that circumcised Trump threw away the wrong piece.

Alex

QuoteThe children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Socrates.
Hail to thyself
For I am my own master
I am my own god
I require no shepherd
For I am no sheep.

Trevor

I am fortunate enough to be the son of a two fisted feminist and a former juvenile delinquent who later joined the army (which set him right): they raised an abandoned and abused child and set him right too.

Dad later became a cop: I don't think he ever saw the irony in the fact that a former criminal became a cop.  :teddyr:

They taught me manners and taught me to be honest, forthright and giving, also raising me to accept people for who they are which is why I am neither a racist nor a homophobe.

I have my issues but my parents raised me right and introduced me to cinema too.  :thumbup:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

RCMerchant

Quote from: Dark Alex on July 27, 2018, 04:40:20 AM
QuoteThe children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Socrates.
Everything changes yet every thing remains the same.  :wink:
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
Slobber, Drool, Drip!
https://www.tumblr.com/ronmerchant

indianasmith

Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on July 27, 2018, 04:29:13 AM
I think a clue things killed civility.

One was the internet.  The ability to throw shxt at people in perfect safety just brought out the total @$$hole in a lot of people.  The hate and gleeful abuse on the net was bound to percolate into the rest of society.

Two was the American right and it'''s fanatical hatred of Bill Clinton,  starting with the endless spew of pure hate that poured out of the ambulatory cesspool known as rush Limbaugh. That subhuman troll made a career out of pure hate,  abuse,  lies,  invective,  ad infinitum,  ad nauseum.  The toxins spread thru the American right and created new tumors like alex Jones,  Mikey savage,  Sean hannity,  etc. 

After decades of eger escalating abuse from the right the left in the us now sick of it and spitting it back at the right.  Thus died discussion,  discourse,  reason and civilty.

Partisan feuds are as old as America, even older - going back to Cato and Caesar.  If you think that one side is to blame for all the rancor in America today, you have a very selective and partisan memory.  It spans both sides of the spectrum from the middle to the fringe; it's just the internet has turned both fringes mainstream.
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"