The All-Purpose Political Thread

[lester1/2jr]

Sven you should read some bart ehrman. he has a liberal take on the historical Jesus

BUT

he would also caution against people taking their own experiences and interpreting his gospel that way. in Bill Oreilly's book Jesus hates taxes and comes off as a republican. in Reza aslan he is fighting Roman occupation and colloboraters as somewhat of a proto Muslim. no surprise the guys are a republican and Muslim respectively.

Almost no one understands what the guy was really about. In general my own interpretation is he felt the Jewish authorities had replaced actual spirituality with rituals and rules. and ...wouldn't you know it, I have suffered from OCD and can't stand rituals!

[RCMerchant]

Politics and Religion are the same f**king thing. Everyone knows this, right?

I reckon if there's a hell below- I'm gonna go! 

[indianasmith]

I simply believe that Jesus was the Son of God.  No more, no less.

[316zombie]

i'll be hanging out with you ronny, since i agree. no offense, indy, YOU are truly a good christian in my eyes.

[Svengoolie 3]

People are free to choose to believe what they want to,  i'm free to say I don't want peolle with certain beliefs to be in positions to make deciscions that affect me.

To be a christian you have to believe that everyone who is not "saved",  which means utter submission to christian views, deserves to suffer eternal torture in agony and fire.

I am not a christian and cannot accept christian views.  I cannot,  do not  and will not now or ever believe that peolle who are not saved deserve the same punishment as Adolf hitler,  Joseph Stalin,  Mao tse tung or the guy who invented internet popups. Yes I'm familiar with christian dogma and I find it utterly impossible to accept.

I do not want peolle who believe I deserve to suffer a fate as the above mentioned being able to make deciscions that affect me.

I have friends and relatives who are not straight.  I do not want peolle who believe they should be murdered to be in positions of power in my society.

I care abut people who are women.  I do  not want peolle who believe women exist to serve and obey men to be in positions of power in a society I life in.

I do not want people who believe that human actions donct matter because some God determines everything in positions of power.

There are plenty of countries  in the world  where religions dominates law and society. I don't want america to become another nation like Saudi Arabia,  Iran, Brunai, Afghanistan, etc.

That's a political view I have.

[indianasmith]

People are free to choose to believe what they want to,  i'm free to say I don't want peolle with certain beliefs to be in positions to make deciscions that affect me.

To be a christian you have to believe that everyone who is not "saved",  which means utter submission to christian views, deserves to suffer eternal torture in agony and fire.

I am not a christian and cannot accept christian views.  I cannot,  do not  and will not now or ever believe that peolle who are not saved deserve the same punishment as Adolf hitler,  Joseph Stalin,  Mao tse tung or the guy who invented internet popups. Yes I'm familiar with christian dogma and I find it utterly impossible to accept.

I do not want peolle who believe I deserve to suffer a fate as the above mentioned being able to make deciscions that affect me.

I have friends and relatives who are not straight.  I do not want peolle who believe they should be murdered to be in positions of power in my society.

I care abut people who are women.  I do  not want peolle who believe women exist to serve and obey men to be in positions of power in a society I life in.

I do not want people who believe that human actions donct matter because some God determines everything in positions of power.

There are plenty of countries  in the world  where religions dominates law and society. I don't want america to become another nation like Saudi Arabia,  Iran, Brunai, Afghanistan, etc.

That's a political view I have.

You claim to be familiar with Christian dogma, but you sure do manage to distort it on a regular basis.

[Svengoolie 3]

I've read most chick tracts, most of them are the same thing: Non saved person gets tossed into a lake of fire.

[indianasmith]

Jack Chick is considered pretty fringe, TBH.

The fact is, while hell is eternal separation from God, there's pretty solid Biblical evidence that there are a variety of punishments there.  Hence Jesus' words to the people of Capernaum: "It will be more tolerable in the day of judgment for Sodom than it will be for you."

[lester1/2jr]

the best chick tract is the one with the band "we're gonna rock rock rock with the rock!" got handed that one on newbury street in Boston in the 90's

[316zombie]

People are free to choose to believe what they want to,  i'm free to say I don't want peolle with certain beliefs to be in positions to make deciscions that affect me.

To be a christian you have to believe that everyone who is not "saved",  which means utter submission to christian views, deserves to suffer eternal torture in agony and fire.

I am not a christian and cannot accept christian views.  I cannot,  do not  and will not now or ever believe that peolle who are not saved deserve the same punishment as Adolf hitler,  Joseph Stalin,  Mao tse tung or the guy who invented internet popups. Yes I'm familiar with christian dogma and I find it utterly impossible to accept.

I do not want peolle who believe I deserve to suffer a fate as the above mentioned being able to make deciscions that affect me.

I have friends and relatives who are not straight.  I do not want peolle who believe they should be murdered to be in positions of power in my society.

I care abut people who are women.  I do  not want peolle who believe women exist to serve and obey men to be in positions of power in a society I life in.

I do not want people who believe that human actions donct matter because some God determines everything in positions of power.

There are plenty of countries  in the world  where religions dominates law and society. I don't want america to become another nation like Saudi Arabia,  Iran, Brunai, Afghanistan, etc.

That's a political view I have.

as usual, you are completely clueless, not to mention incredibly insulting.

[Svengoolie 3]

There are people in government who have openly stated their desire to turn america into a nation ruled by christian laws.  Mike Huckabee was one,  Betsy DeVos is another.

[indianasmith]

Within the bounds of the  Constitution - a document, I might add, largely written by Christians.

[Leah]

Correct me if I'm wrong but was America known as The Melting Pot at some point?

[Svengoolie 3]

Within the bounds of the  Constitution - a document, I might add, largely written by Christians.

Ben franklin and Thomas Jefferson were not Christians.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Thomas_Jefferson

https://www.quora.com/What-were-Ben-Franklins-views-on-religion-and-Christianity-in-particular

The founders also never mentioned any god in the consitituion.

[Trevor]

I have colluded with Russia as I keep getting Russian mail-order bride ads here