When Bad Directors Make Good Movies

kornula · July 20, 2019, 10:05:04 AM

Quote from: Alex on April 13, 2019, 01:30:53 PM
I would say the first Star Wars film is a good movie made by a bad director.

You win the internet today!
BTW; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFMyMxMYDNk
This video0 shows very clearly how s**tty a director Lucas was way back in 1976... but Richard Chew and Marcia Lucas saved his sorry, untalented ass...

bob · July 20, 2019, 04:18:27 PM

Peter Jackson's sole good film is Bad Taste

pennywise37 · July 20, 2019, 05:26:59 PM

1stly i disagree i love love American Graffiti that's i think George Lucas's best film, now i love Star Wars too and a New Hope is a great film i'm not denying that but i love American Graffiti, and Peter Jackson i've actually never have seen Bad Taste i keep forgetting to seek it out to be honest, but i love the Lord of the ring films, and though i haven't watched "The Frightner's in years i do have a copy of the Directors cut which i haven't watched yet but that cut is suppose to be a lot better than the theatrical cut and i saw it in the theater back in the day and loved it.

and with M. Night i like him as a director but he's done a lot bad films for me i think his best film isn't my favorite of his is Sixth sense. but his films in the past couple years have actually gotten better and i read an interview that he did where he said that when he started out he was making films for himself a movie like Unbreakable or Signs but the ones after that he started making them for his kids when they were little and now that they are older he's making them for himself again.

Rev. Powell · July 21, 2019, 09:59:04 AM

Quote from: bob on July 20, 2019, 04:18:27 PM
Peter Jackson's sole good film is Bad Taste

Sorry, disagree. I didn't like BAD TASTE. DEAD-ALIVE is vastly superior.

pennywise37 · July 24, 2019, 12:40:57 AM

that's another i haven't seen yet oddly enough, i remember when that came out i wasn't allowed to see it cause i was well too young to see it though i was my early teens i think? my brother back than since he was a horror fan like me well is as he's still around anyways, he'd say you can watch this or that and it always annoyed the hell out of me too.

my folks never watched horror movies at all nor do they read King normally either so he was like that with movies too. my folks left that too him on that front today i think it's really stupid they did that but oh well i guess

Svengoolie 3 · July 24, 2019, 02:42:17 AM

I'd have to say that THX-1138 was a slightly flawed but good movie and a good hard SF movie. If anything the corporate and state Dehumanization of most people has grown vastly since it was made and a remake could be a worthy project.

RCMerchant · July 25, 2019, 12:48:00 PM

Quote from: Svengoolie 3 on July 24, 2019, 02:42:17 AM
I'd have to say that THX-1138 was a slightly flawed but good movie and a good hard SF movie.

I thought it was a fantastic movie! And it had Sid Haig too! Bacon!

I remember- I haven't seen it since 1976- but in STAR WARS there was a couple of seconds on screen of a pilot of some space ship-one of Vader's bad guys-who looked very much like the cops in THX.

pennywise37 · July 25, 2019, 02:40:03 PM

that could have been intentional i'm guessing. i haven't seen THX1138 but i will watch Sid Haig in anything regardless how bad the film is, and no i'm not calling THX1138 a bad film cause i haven't seen it just mean since he's done so many bad films.

RCMerchant · July 25, 2019, 02:49:34 PM

Quote from: pennywise37 on July 25, 2019, 02:40:03 PM
that could have been intentional i'm guessing. i haven't seen THX1138 but i will watch Sid Haig in anything regardless how bad the film is, and no i'm not calling THX1138 a bad film cause i haven't seen it just mean since he's done so many bad films.

I'm sure it was a nod to THX-1138.
And, yeah. I like Sid Haig. And if it's a Pam Grier movie...I might just have an orgasm!
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Svengoolie 3 · July 26, 2019, 06:31:13 PM

Yeah, lucas did a lot of tributes to thx-1138.

Honestly i'm surprised he doesn;t (XXXX you AHD!) do a remake.

Yes I know if you look at the dramatic and beautiful last moment THX is doomed. as he's on the surface of earth with no outdoor survival skills or knowledge. But it was a beautiful scene.

pennywise37 · July 26, 2019, 09:12:18 PM

well if you think about it THX isn't as well known like Star Wars is nor is it loved like it is either. true many know about it but that's guys like us who love films but the vast Majority i'd say unless they are film geeks as i call it like us they have never heard of it. that's how i look at it anyways,

that's i think why he hasn't done a remake of it. and i'm not saying there aren't fans of it there no doubt are but not like his other films

Svengoolie 3 · July 26, 2019, 09:27:36 PM

Quote from: pennywise37 on July 26, 2019, 09:12:18 PM
well if you think about it THX isn't as well known like Star Wars is nor is it loved like it is either. true many know about it but that's guys like us who love films but the vast Majority i'd say unless they are film geeks as i call it like us they have never heard of it. that's how i look at it anyways,

that's i think why he hasn't done a remake of it. and i'm not saying there aren't fans of it there no doubt are but not like his other films

I get your view, but I think in today's world the concept of people being utterly dehumanized by a corporate state that is utterly indifferent to their humanity and suffering would really resonate.

claws · July 27, 2019, 08:01:58 AM

Quote from: Rev. Powell on July 21, 2019, 09:59:04 AM
Quote from: bob on July 20, 2019, 04:18:27 PM
Peter Jackson's sole good film is Bad Taste

Sorry, disagree. I didn't like BAD TASTE. DEAD-ALIVE is vastly superior.

Heavenly Creatures (1994) is even better

Why is Peterr Jackson even listed? wtf?

pennywise37 · July 27, 2019, 08:18:53 AM

i think we are both right and damn Heavenly Creatures is one i've wanted to see for years, on the show i love it's called Deadly women or as i call it Evil Bi***S

cause they got some evil ones on there, anyways in one episode they talk about that case and that's one author i have heard of but i have never read any of her books sadly. so i dunno how good or bad they are to be fair. i like Peter Jackson as Director for me for the ones i have seen The Lovely Bones is his worst film.

not a bad idea at all that he decided to do and it had it's moments to be fair but the film was sadly awful. i liked the King Kong one i haven't seen The Extended cut yet, but it's not among his best films at all but it's not bad either, i think Skull Island was a better film to be honest

Rev. Powell · July 27, 2019, 10:50:30 AM

Quote from: claws on July 27, 2019, 08:01:58 AM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on July 21, 2019, 09:59:04 AM
Quote from: bob on July 20, 2019, 04:18:27 PM
Peter Jackson's sole good film is Bad Taste

Sorry, disagree. I didn't like BAD TASTE. DEAD-ALIVE is vastly superior.

Heavenly Creatures (1994) is even better

Why is Peterr Jackson even listed? wtf?

I agree, and I think LOTR series is the best. But Bob clearly doesn't like PJ for whatever reason. So it seems to me if you don't like PJ but you like BAD TASTE, you should love DEAD-ALIVE, which is the same kind of thing only turned up to 11.

I love DEAD-ALIVE but really hated BAD TASTE when I first saw it (when it came out on VHS in the early 90s). Maybe I'd like it better now. But I liked DEAD-ALIVE from the get-go.

I'd say his worst may be MEET THE FEEBLES, which is well done in its way, but just so reprehensible.